AA/US ISL question

[St. Nic]

I'll start. 1. They have shown that integrity and your word doesn't count if you don't get your way. 2. The ********************ty wages and workrules have hampered the ability of other pilot groups to make large improvements to their ch11 contracts.



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Spoken like a true westicle. Jeez you little girls wine a lot

 

[JetMonkey]

And no Nic. Period. It is deader than dead.
West pilots will be feathered in with the third listers. you heard it here first

What a coward. When the intergration comes, nicky the dicky here will vanish like a fart in the wind. You heard it here first.

 

[Carl S.]

Usapa should soon become a footnote in history for all that is wrong with organized labor and just another chapter in the sad careers of former East pilots who think the world owes them. The east/ west is still in play no matter what the village idiots say here.

 

[It will roll]

Can't we all just get along?
Nevermind..

 

[Bringupthebird]

Gee Dan, why are you concerned about their long term legacy? They aren't. Do you think Bernie Madoff or Frank Lorenzo worries about anything more than preserving the smug satisfaction of what they stole and the lives they ruined? Steve Bradford and Mike Cleary are no different nor are the 3500 enablers that helped them.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Westicle?? You truly are a dumbass!

Spoken like a true westicle. Jeez you little girls wine a lot

 

[Metrojet]

Gee Dan, why are you concerned about their long term legacy? They aren't. Do you think Bernie Madoff or Frank Lorenzo worries about anything more than preserving the smug satisfaction of what they stole and the lives they ruined? Steve Bradford and Mike Cleary are no different nor are the 3500 enablers that helped them.

That is quite a stretch to compare Bernie Madoff ( a convicted felon) and Frank Lorenzo ( union buster) to a legitimate certified collective bargaining agent.

I guess you could call some of your fellow West brothers some good things since they might have more in common with your examples rather than Steve Bradford. IMHO

Metrojet

 

[waveflyer]

"Legitimate"?

 

[Turtle21]

That is quite a stretch to compare Bernie Madoff ( a convicted felon) and Frank Lorenzo ( union buster) to a legitimate certified collective bargaining agent.

I guess you could call some of your fellow West brothers some good things since they might have more in common with your examples rather than Steve Bradford. IMHO

Metrojet

The louder the loser whines, the greater the satisfaction of the prevailing litigant.

 

[Metrojet]

"Legitimate"?

1le?git?i?mate adjective \li-ˈji-tə-mət\
: allowed according to rules or laws

: real, accepted, or official

: fair or reasonable


So your question was ?

Metrojet

 

[waveflyer]

There will ALWAYS be questions about USAPA and their pilots.

Always

 

[Bringupthebird]

Questions? I kinda pity them wearing the brand they put on themselves for the remainder of their careers. Nah, guess not.

 

[i fly boxes]

What happens with new hires regarding fences? If you were hired on the usair side next month does that mean you would most likely not be able to fly a 777 until the fence is down or is it only for pilots that were on property at merger date?

 

[ALGFLYR]

What happens with new hires regarding fences? If you were hired on the usair side next month does that mean you would most likely not be able to fly a 777 until the fence is down or is it only for pilots that were on property at merger date?

If there is a fence, that's exactly what that means. There are two ways around a fence. The first is when the time expires and there is no more fence. The second is when the positions on the bottom go un-filled on a base bid. That also effectively brings down a fence.

So the pilot hired next month on the US Airways side will have to wait until the fence expires before he can bid the 777. Example: Let's say the fence is 5 years long and we achieve total pilot integration in 2015. The fence goes until 2020. So that's how long he would have to wait. However if a bid in 2017 leaves the bottom 5 positions un-filled with pre-merger AA pilots, it would open up to a system wide availability, effectively bringing down the fence on that particular aircraft for that particular position (FO). I'm quite confident the fence on the Captain side will last the duration of the time chosen for the fence as I doubt you would ever see 777 Captain slots go un-filled...

 

[RJLoser]

Have there been FO fences for DL/NWA or CAL/UAL?