General Lee
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I doubt it.
I think once the retirements start, mgmt is going to delay replacement hiring as a tactic to keep your list moving. You'll all be working a lot, moving up the list. Hiring will underpace attrition until you're all convinced the list movement will never stop and are dreaming about getting off reserve, upgrading, whatever. Then, mgmt will offer you a HUGE raise for <100 seat relief.
At that point, you'd be dumb not to agree...and God forbid your wives ever find out you voted no to a ~85-100% pay raise during an era of unprecedented list movement...you'll NEVER hear the end of that one.
There are limits to what we can fly each month. United has no limit, and most of them have 95 hour lines (with credit, not all flying), and 12 days off a month for some lineholders, thanks to their contract. Ours is better.
As far as allowing anything over 76 seats, that is a big NOPE. Everyone still here from both sides have seen what has happened to routes, commuting, etc. That means lots of bad attitudes towards allowing it, and that doesn't look good for your prospects. You say we could be offered a 85%-100% raise? That is what happens normally when you move up aircraft and seats. (probably closer to 50% raise, if you move up category and seat) A new contract is due at the end of the next year, and rumors abound state management wants to conclude it quickly (they already are negotiating right now, including just fixing recovery flying during IOEs, traded for newhires getting a 1 year freeze on their equipment, which wasn't the case before), primarily because there may be more consolidation prospects out there, and nobody wants to be negotiating during that period. The raises will be there regardless. $952 million in bag fees last year means there will be room to negotiate.
What I find amusing is that you would rather wait for 100 seaters at your current airline, than get hired and move up the normal ladder. All you have is "hope" that scope will errode. It just won't, and your 50 seaters will continue to leave thanks to higher gas, leaving your company to maybe turn out like Comair eventually. Those guys thought after 9-11 that they had the World by the ballz. These days, they don't look the same. You may want to throw out some apps someday, unless you are scared to interview like some on here. You are starting to sound grouchy like Joe Merchant, and look how far that has gotten him......nowhere. You can take the Freebrd route and fly CR9s in Da Nang......idiotic.
Bye Bye---General Lee
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