10/250

[fischman]

You all do realize if we get 10/250 in the next contract , we will be very near the top 1%. Do we deserve to be "one percenters?"

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130910/DA8NN7U02.html

Cream rises to the top. :beer:

If???

When.

 

[gutshotdraw]

If???

When.

You think the Cardinals will be in the World Series, too.

:laugh:

 

[gunfyter]

You think the Cardinals will be in the World Series, too.

:laugh:

As a Yankees fan I always bid vacation for the WS just in case....

 

[gutshotdraw]

As a Yankees fan I always bid vacation for the WS just in case....

Wasted bid this year.....


My Red Sox, on the other hand, are making me wish I had bid October off instead of September.

:beer:

 

[fischman]

You think the Cardinals will be in the World Series, too.

:laugh:

You mean same Cardinals that are leading the toughest division on baseball? You can go ahead and call them the 2013 World Series Champion St. Louis Cardinals.

 

[SharkRider]

Red Sox vs. Dodgers. You heard it here first!!!
:smash:
Dodgers

 

[gutshotdraw]

You mean same Cardinals that are leading the toughest division on baseball? You can go ahead and call them the 2013 World Series Champion St. Louis Cardinals.

TOUGHEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL? When did the Cardinals move to the American League East?

 

[fischman]

TOUGHEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL? When did the Cardinals move to the American League East?

Puhleze... Real baseball teams don't need a DH to win.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Puhleze... Real baseball teams don't need a DH to win.

Well, I do think there should be a constitutional amendment outlawing artificial turf AND the designated hitter....

 

[fischman]

Well, I do think there should be a constitutional amendment outlawing artificial turf AND the designated hitter....

I'll drink to that. Next time I'm in LAS, I'll be sure to explain to you why the Cardz are more awesome than everything.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I'll drink to that. Next time I'm in LAS, I'll be sure to explain to you why the Cardz are more awesome than everything.

Nothing is more awesome than my BoSox this year. Well, except for Stag. Maybe.

John Farrell is Manager of the Year. If you argue that, I can't help you....

Worst to First.

 

[fischman]

Nothing is more awesome than my BoSox this year. Well, except for Stag. Maybe.

John Farrell is Manager of the Year. If you argue that, I can't help you....

Worst to First.

You have to be kidding me. How hard is it to manage an AL team? There is no need to think, to have strategy with a DH. The Cardz beat the Rangers in '11 because Tony La Russa out managed Ron Washington in every respect. Mike Matheny being a former catcher knows how to run a bull pen too.

Things more awesome than BoSox:

1) St. Louis Cardinals
2) Stag
3) Bacon
4) Miley Cyrus

 

[gutshotdraw]

Fear the Beard amigo...

 

[gutshotdraw]

But bacon IS awesome. Miley Cyrus...not so much.

 

[gutshotdraw]

And yes. This thread has been totally derailed. My thread, I can derail it.

Playoff baseball is more fun anyway.

 

[Semore Butts]

Oh yeah Julius! I think the Cards may win it again!

I'll have another Word Champion T-shirt in my drawer.

Just spent 2 weeks vacation with my dad in STL. Watched the cards every game. Also ran into John L. of the "Carlyle "L's") in the airport on the way home!

I picked up 4 Cardinal "coozies" as well!!!!!

Semore, (Parkway North)

 

[OHGOON]

Then go! We'll all be better off.

Was just answering your question...why the jingoistic rage? Bet you have nothing but empty slogans to back up what you've been told to think.

 

[NJAowner]

Does 10/250 really work?

Does 10/250 really work? I don?t want to destroy anyone?s dream?s, but has anyone run the numbers? Pilots? salaries are supposed to come out of the Monthly Management Fees (MMF), which also includes costs of maintenance, hangaring, reserves for refurbishing and repainting, operations, owner services, etc. I think the proper line item to look at in making your assumptions is the total MMF (not to be confused with other income or profits NJA may make from accounting treatment and other items ? and these items fluctuate from years to year ? if you want a share of the profits will you shares the losses??). The MMF for a 1/16th in an Excel is approximately $9500. That equates to a total annual MMF of $1,824,000 per Excel ($9500 x 16 x 12). I believe I have read on this board that staffing is 5 pilots per jet ? if so salaries alone before any benefits would be $1,250,000. Using a ?rule of thumb? of a 50% charge for employer taxes and benefits would bring just the pilot?s costs to $1,875,000 per jet or more than the total MMF. I wish you good luck but the numbers don?t seem to work.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Does 10/250 really work? I don?t want to destroy anyone?s dream?s, but has anyone run the numbers? Pilots? salaries are supposed to come out of the Monthly Management Fees (MMF), which also includes costs of maintenance, hangaring, reserves for refurbishing and repainting, operations, owner services, etc. I think the proper line item to look at in making your assumptions is the total MMF (not to be confused with other income or profits NJA may make from accounting treatment and other items ? and these items fluctuate from years to year ? if you want a share of the profits will you shares the losses??). The MMF for a 1/16th in an Excel is approximately $9500. That equates to a total annual MMF of $1,824,000 per Excel ($9500 x 16 x 12). I believe I have read on this board that staffing is 5 pilots per jet ? if so salaries alone before any benefits would be $1,250,000. Using a ?rule of thumb? of a 50% charge for employer taxes and benefits would bring just the pilot?s costs to $1,875,000 per jet or more than the total MMF. I wish you good luck but the numbers don?t seem to work.

C'mon now. You're smart enough to know the numbers are WAY more complicated than that.

Gulfstream or Global monthly management fees per 1/4 share are north of $60,000 and all the other aircraft fees are somewhere in between. It just ISN'T as simple as saying x times y equals z.

I've always loathed the phrase "our fair share." We don't get a "share" of the profits. We EARN whatever salaries and benefits we negotiate with our employer and leave the running of the business and the earning of a profit to THEM. And the simple fact is, the demographics and the supply and demand profile of the pilot profession are shifting in the pilot's favor.

Is it enough of a shift to demand and get $250,000 at year 10 PIC? Considering a Delta 10 year PIC (if there were such a thing) would make about $215,000 I think the answer is "doubtful." But have we EARNED a substantial raise and an improvement in retirement funding? Oh hell yes. And is the money there to pay for those improvements and STILL make a profit? Absolutely. And that's BEFORE the next CPI-U adjustment of every owner's management fee that happens EVERY year. My salary has been frozen for three years.

 

[Xcorporate]

nearly 500 have been "sharing the losses" for quite some time now. 10/250 does work and if there are short falls the owners can pay more to cover them.