Unhappy ExpressJet Pilots...

[paid4training]

Xjt pilots did hurt the company trying to get all they could outta Jim ream back a few years ago and look at where they are now.

 

[say again]

The stress comes from dealing with China airspace issues and FOs who don't speak English and have limited flight time.

But China is where the money is for right now, and the foreseeable future.

Is that really worth the money? Sounds outright dangerous.

 

[cybourg10]

Xjt pilots did hurt the company trying to get all they could outta Jim ream back a few years ago and look at where they are now.

Ya look at us and how pathetic we are. Upgrading and hiring at our fastest pace possible with YOY growth in block hours 3 years in a row now (soon to be 4).

If only we were "cost competitive" like you guys maybe we could lose aircraft and run displacement bids.

Nice flame.

 

[Nevets]

You see it as "low expectations" when we have more MOUs and LOAs showing we have the ability to work with the management.

I don't know, another point of view is that you have so many MOUs and LOAs because your contract has needed so much fixing. Did you guys MOU the ability to be reassigned via ACARS?

Xjt pilots did hurt the company trying to get all they could outta Jim ream back a few years ago and look at where they are now.

And where is it you think we are now?

 

[wingnutt]

Transfer!

Transfer!

 

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I don't know, another point of view is that you have so many MOUs and LOAs because your contract has needed so much fixing. Did you guys MOU the ability to be reassigned via ACARS?

And another POV is that your contract was sooo great that you priced yourself out of a job...... almost but someone came in at the last minute to rescue you?

 

[www.]

Transfer!

This is Peggy can I help you?

 

[Nevets]

And another POV is that your contract was sooo great that you priced yourself out of a job...... almost but someone came in at the last minute to rescue you?

That's true. Skywest/ASA were able to underbid us and we got stuck with the CPA they negotiated. Not much of a rescue when they were responsible for putting a whole below the waterline though.

 

[RT8VA]

The express jet pilot contract is a very small part of doing buisness, you guys need to look up Macro Economics some day. This sounds just like the argument that the United pilots contract put them in trouble, if that were true after two bankruptcies that gutted that contract the airline should have been immediately thriving which clearly did not happen. Bad management will always tell you it is because your contract is to blame and pilots always believe it. We truly are our own worst enemies.

 

[dojetdriver]

And another POV is that your contract was sooo great that you priced yourself out of a job...... almost but someone came in at the last minute to rescue you?

Nope, Speed...., I mean wwww., that's not really it.

You see, in 2008, somebody (SKW) broke it (XJT). Later, they (SKW) were allowed to buy it (XJT).

The express jet pilot contract is a very small part of doing buisness, you guys need to look up Macro Economics some day. This sounds just like the argument that the United pilots contract put them in trouble, if that were true after two bankruptcies that gutted that contract the airline should have been immediately thriving which clearly did not happen. Bad management will always tell you it is because your contract is to blame and pilots always believe it. We truly are our own worst enemies.

Good point, but remember that just like UAL in your example, most employees as well as lower level management took concessions. NOT just the pilots.