SWA/AAI SLI agreement in principle.

[Tripower455]

You guys make me laugh. On one hand you all say ALPA can't get crap done, weak, ineffective, blah...blah...blah... On the other ALPA was able to get the age 60 rule changed overnight. So, which is it? The rule was changing anyway. ALPA jumped on board at the last minute. A crappy move in my opinion.

Exactly....... As much as the SW age 60 guys think so, SWApA had very little to nothing to do with the age 60 change. Washington didn't give a darn until ALPA wanted it changed.

 

[koko nw]

You guys make me laugh.
Oh yeah. One more thing. This is from our 7/19 FDX ALPA news letter. Looks like some guys think that SWA isn't the be all/end all after all.

"FedEx Express began a group of 19 pilot new hires on July 11. Seven of these new hires are going to the ANC domicile as MD-11 First Officers. The 12 remaining new hires are being trained as MEM B727 First Officers. This class of pilots came from a variety of backgrounds. We have pilots joining us from USAF, USN, USAFR, USNR, USMCR, ANG, Southwest, OMNI Air International, XTRA Airways, Pinnacle, SkyWest, and Air Cargo Carriers. "

Right, and in the late 90's you box boy's were leaving in droves to greener pastures like UAL, AMR, DAL, ect....How that work for those guy's?

Enjoy your ride there my friend, your junior new hires may or may not have made a wise choice. as always time will tell.

Regards

 

[4day]

SWAPAExecs SWAPA Execs
by SWAPA_NC
The BOD has convened in DAL for the special BOD meeting to vet the SLI agreement. Thanks for your patience. We've got a lot to discuss!

 

[slaquer5]

Considering the fact that both sides signed a NDA, I'd say that I give a rip. Leaking rumors to sway one side or the other without interpreting the entire document is wrong and you know it.

Gup

Very true

 

[fr8doggie]

Right, and in the late 90's you box boy's were leaving in droves to greener pastures like UAL, AMR, DAL, ect....How that work for those guy's?

Not so good...

In fact we had a 727 Capt quit FDX and go to AMR. The date...first week of September, 2001.

And I am enjoying my time here. I'm incredibly lucky to have been hired here. I hope that we can all, somehow enjoy a fulfilling career in our chosen profession.

The sanctimoniousness and "holier than thou" of some on this board is pretty sad.

 

[PCL_128]

Considering the fact that both sides signed a NDA, I'd say that I give a rip. Leaking rumors to sway one side or the other without interpreting the entire document is wrong and you know it.

Gup

I don't think our reps signed a NDA.

 

[koko nw]

Not so good...

In fact we had a 727 Capt quit FDX and go to AMR. The date...first week of September, 2001.

Man don't I know it, most of us have watched friends make many a painful decisions pre and post 9/11. Some have worked out better then others.

And I am enjoying my time here. I'm incredibly lucky to have been hired here. I hope that we can all, somehow enjoy a fulfilling career in our chosen profession.

The sanctimoniousness and "holier than thou" of some on this board is pretty sad.

Cheers, I can certainly drink to that. All the Best

Koko

Now back to the regularly scheduled springer show.

 

[GuppyWN]

I don't think our reps signed a NDA.

Fine. Explain to me how your reps found out details from closed negotiations? Of which the only peeps in the room HAD signed NDA's?

Gup

 

[PCL_128]

Fine. Explain to me how your reps found out details from closed negotiations? Of which the only peeps in the room HAD signed NDA's?

Gup

Remember, our entire MEC had a meeting with Gary Kelly and other managers that week. They didn't just get info second hand. I haven't heard anything about a NDA for that meeting, and I'm sure our reps wouldn't violate one if there had been one.

 

[GuppyWN]

You pinky swear?

Gup

 

[ASADFW7]

PCL the word is 50 cent doesn't travel with that large of an entourage when he comes to Dallas.

 

[JT12345]

Do you guys really not get the fact that WE BOUGHT YOU? you cant have it all! sorry you might lose your vacation time and bidding power, but someone has to lose a little in this deal. how is this so hard to grasp? you guys really need to take a look at reality. 10% raise isnt enough? 45% is good but you want to keep your seniority and bidding power too? you guys were bought... think that first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDkYZWeeVg

Awesome. I get to use this quote here too.

 

[bmpilot]

You pinky swear?

Gup

Just double dog dare him

 

[ILUVURBANMYERS]

Yea we had a guy in the class ahead of me bail to Delta in I think March of 01. I was just on the verge of upgrade. The grass is always greener........

 

[bendover]

ok im hearing that 650 at fo's are stapled to the bottom of swapa list. so a 7 yr at fo , which would have had upgrade this year is now lookin at 10 to 15 year upgrade? How is this fair and equitable? Didn't the airtran guys bring thier own planes and routes and 50 new aircraft orders? Seat Grab. Bull$hit.

 

[bmpilot]

ok im hearing that 650 at fo's are stapled to the bottom of swapa list. so a 7 yr at fo , which would have had upgrade this year is now lookin at 10 to 15 year upgrade? How is this fair and equitable? Didn't the airtran guys bring thier own planes and routes and 50 new aircraft orders? Seat Grab. Bull$hit.

Care to say who from. A name. I thought not. Nothing to see here. Troll.

 

[4day]

ok im hearing that 650 at fo's are stapled to the bottom of swapa list. so a 7 yr at fo , which would have had upgrade this year is now lookin at 10 to 15 year upgrade? How is this fair and equitable? Didn't the airtran guys bring thier own planes and routes and 50 new aircraft orders? Seat Grab. Bull$hit.

.....

 

[waveflyer]

Meaning that AT FO would be junior again at the bottom of the capt list and making swa FO pay to fly the left seat with worse benefits and limited bases, and almost topped out for their career.
Upgrade thinking is regional thinking. If the only thing that mattered was the left seat, I'd have stayed in the RJ.
Troll is right.

 

[yoyoma]

ok im hearing that 650 at fo's are stapled to the bottom of swapa list. so a 7 yr at fo , which would have had upgrade this year is now lookin at 10 to 15 year upgrade? How is this fair and equitable? Didn't the airtran guys bring thier own planes and routes and 50 new aircraft orders? Seat Grab. Bull$hit.

Is this a joke? How about because they will make more than they EVER would at AIRTRASH and they should count their blessing Southwest bought them??!!!

 

[redflyer65]

Exactly. SW/FO rates = AAI/CA rates. Along with all the other benefits they never had before as well.