Getting the call from US Airways?

[redflyer65]

That's got to be a tough leap from RJ captain making 80/hr to a USA E190 FO making less than 50/hr for 5yrs.

Did hear that some Regional FO's were getting the call though.

 

[ackattacker]

That's got to be a tough leap from RJ captain making 80/hr to a USA E190 FO making less than 50/hr for 5yrs.

Did hear that some Regional FO's were getting the call though.

Nobody will stay on the 190 past year 1 unless they choose to do so for schedule. At 5 years you're back up above $80 as a E190 Capt or worst case $75 as an Airbus F/O. YMMV, IMHO, No warranty expressed or implied.

 

[sean67]

I've been on miliarty leave for 2 years. I was able to hold a secondary line as a DCA AB f/o. But with the latest bid, I'll be on reserve. So, I'm not sure why they're hiring with the cut back in flying. Hopefully I can stay on leave until I can hold a line again.

 

[redflyer65]

Nobody will stay on the 190 past year 1 unless they choose to do so for schedule. At 5 years you're back up above $80 as a E190 Capt or worst case $75 as an Airbus F/O. YMMV, IMHO, No warranty expressed or implied.

Good point, at least it sounds like they can move off that E190 FO payscale...which is a very good thing.

 

[psw757]

I've been on miliarty leave for 2 years. I was able to hold a secondary line as a DCA AB f/o. But with the latest bid, I'll be on reserve. So, I'm not sure why they're hiring with the cut back in flying. Hopefully I can stay on leave until I can hold a line again.

From what I have heard, they are maintaining block hours on the domestic while decreasing lines of flying. Better aircraft utilization. They can't really cut anymore flying because we are 1 aircraft over the min fleet and just a hair above the average min block hours. I think the company said it is a seasonal 1% cut which includes the express operation as well. The international pulldown occurs every sept. Also, apparently the new rest/duty rules will be out in august and while we don't know the exact changes yet, the company is expecting to need increased reserve coverage due to these changes.

 

[sean67]

From what I have heard, they are maintaining block hours on the domestic while decreasing lines of flying. Better aircraft utilization. They can't really cut anymore flying because we are 1 aircraft over the min fleet and just a hair above the average min block hours. I think the company said it is a seasonal 1% cut which includes the express operation as well. The international pulldown occurs every sept. Also, apparently the new rest/duty rules will be out in august and while we don't know the exact changes yet, the company is expecting to need increased reserve coverage due to these changes.

Got it..Thanks for the explanation. Any idea when the lines will increase? Spring maybe??

 

[psw757]

Got it..Thanks for the explanation. Any idea when the lines will increase? Spring maybe??

I heard there may be another bid in november. Hiring numbers should be bigger next year ahead of the attrition.

 

[ex j-41]

That's got to be a tough leap from RJ captain making 80/hr to a USA E190 FO making less than 50/hr for 5yrs.

Did hear that some Regional FO's were getting the call though.

There were some 18 or so pilots from PSA that were hired back in 2008. Our President decided that he wasn't able to replace them so put a halt on them going to US Airways. Since 2008 4 have left for mainline, that was back in the beginning of june. Another 4 maybe going in July.
No other pilots from PSA have been allowed to interview at Airways. Lawsuit will be filed I’m sure. We have pilots with 5,6,7,8..15 thousand hours flying in the US Airways system and none have gotten a call. Discriminatory? Or did someone at PSA make a call to Airways HR Dept requesting that they not interview PSA pilots?

 

[FMEpilot]

Same with PDT pilots. No calls. Cut back to taking 2/month for previsouly hired pilots from 2008. Keith and Steve... class acts.

 

[weasel_lips]

Not too sure about that. The Airbus is VERY understaffed. They run out of FO's almost every day without exception. I have worked every reserve day this month as an S reserve in CLT. There are some days they run out before 8am... I'm not saying they aren't short on the 190, but I would think if the company had to cancel flights due to crew shortages, I would think they would want the larger planes to go that are carrying more revenue. Either way, we need pilots...

I second that... POTA's left and right daily... Not that anyone would answer the phone...

 

[elguapo9]

My phone was blowing up on Wednesday. POTA POTA POTA. First time this has happened to me as a 190 FO. I guess the overstaffed days are officially over.

 

[Flybywire44]

What is POTA? Extensions? How many options does US Air have for e190s?

 

[Tweaker]

What is POTA? Extensions? How many options does US Air have for e190s?

It is what I knew previously as a Jr. Man.

Get this - NO EXTRA PAY
NO LIMIT TO HOW MANY TIMES PER YEAR THEY CAN DO IT

LOA 93 is a massive turd!

Options - I think the number 45 was wot I remember. That means nothing, and they aren't about to spend the money nor increase domestic operations. My money is on getting rid of the 15 E190's when the next wave of economic reality crashes down upon our s*************************. <---S h o r e s is blocked?!? That ain't even close to prostitute.

Printing money not backed by hard assets - HOW DOES IT WORK?

 

[Dornier 335]

My phone was blowing up on Wednesday. POTA POTA POTA. First time this has happened to me as a 190 FO. I guess the overstaffed days are officially over.

The 190 staffing is kinda weird. Most guys I know got a call on Wednesday, but if you look at CATCREW there are still guys with 00:00 hours for the month. I have seen extremes from as much as 10+ people on short/long call to just 1.

 

[LearLove]

It is what I knew previously as a Jr. Man.

Get this - NO EXTRA PAY
NO LIMIT TO HOW MANY TIMES PER YEAR THEY CAN DO IT

LOA 93 is a massive turd!

Options - I think the number 45 was wot I remember. That means nothing, and they aren't about to spend the money nor increase domestic operations. My money is on getting rid of the 15 E190's when the next wave of economic reality crashes down upon our s*************************. <---S h o r e s is blocked?!? That ain't even close to prostitute.

Printing money not backed by hard assets - HOW DOES IT WORK?

I'm not defending POTA - but really, you have to be an f'in moron if you actually get suckered into doing a POTA (when you don't want to).

ever hear of caller ID. further why even answer your phone if you don't know the number. further even if you answer on your day off and they ask you just tell them something like your in the middle of NY state hunting/camping whatever.

I may or may not have been called on this past Wed also. And I may or may not have been 10 miles off the jersey shore fishing.

POTA = non issue.

 

[Flybywire44]

They don't even pay 150% or 200%?

Wow...

 

[ackattacker]

The 190 staffing is kinda weird. Most guys I know got a call on Wednesday, but if you look at CATCREW there are still guys with 00:00 hours for the month. I have seen extremes from as much as 10+ people on short/long call to just 1.

"Kind of Weird" translates as "SNAFU".

As for Jr. man pay, the company is only shooting itself in the foot there, because they can't crew the flights when there's no incentive to ever pick up the phone.

 

[get2flyin]

The East doesn't even get "Junior Manning" pay? (Wide-eyed shock) Nice contract you got there. REAL nice.

 

[ALGFLYR]

The East doesn't even get "Junior Manning" pay? (Wide-eyed shock) Nice contract you got there. REAL nice.

We don't have "junior manning" pay because we don't have "junior manning". What some may think of as junior manning is called POTA (priority of trip assignment). Like junior manning, when a trip opens up they can't cover, they start at the bottom and call all pilots asking if they would fly the trip. They are not required to do it. If you just tell them you are unavailable to fly, they will say ok thanks and move on. But the best way is, as Lear suggested, don't answer the phone! Scheduling is required to identify themselves when they call, they cannot block their number.

What amazes me is their are pilots that actually pick these trips up...

BTW, there are no FO reserves on the Airbus in CLT or PHL today...

 

[get2flyin]

We don't have "junior manning" pay because we don't have "junior manning". What some may think of as junior manning is called POTA (priority of trip assignment). Like junior manning, when a trip opens up they can't cover, they start at the bottom and call all pilots asking if they would fly the trip. They are not required to do it. If you just tell them you are unavailable to fly, they will say ok thanks and move on. But the best way is, as Lear suggested, don't answer the phone! Scheduling is required to identify themselves when they call, they cannot block their number.

What amazes me is their are pilots that actually pick these trips up...

BTW, there are no FO reserves on the Airbus in CLT or PHL today...

Enjoy that while it lasts. I'm not being an ass when I say that and indeed having scheduling call everybody looking for volunteers would actually be pretty sweet..but...the West use to have about 4 crew schedulers on duty at any time and the East had what, thirty or forty? When scheduling thinks they may have a problem with coverage, they "red-flag" it in open time. Means you get something like 120% pay or some such thing. If there isn't enough notice for that, they "tag" a reserve coming in at the end of a trip if the reserve still has duty time left. If not, they could "tag" a line holder but they get an even larger premium for having their tip extended, like 150% or something like that. However, most people suddenly are fatigued when they get tagged (surprise!). Either way, the West system takes a heck of a lot fewer crew schedulers to manage each day. (Again, I'm not saying it's better or worse, just cheaper to run)

Like you, I'm always surprised at people who are willing to whore themselves out...especially when the West still has guys on furlough.

FWIW, PHX is almost out of reserve FO's today. Plenty of Captains.