Union coming at Flexjet!

[DirtyBeech]

Then you're well behind the power curve and need to consider that NJA's union was contacted as was Options, and after much discussion it became clear what the only viable path would be. This is not some shot in the dark.

 

[G4dude]

Then you're well behind the power curve and need to consider that NJA's union was contacted as was Options, and after much discussion it became clear what the only viable path would be. This is not some shot in the dark.

I suspect NJA union types told the truth and the Teamsters did not. The Teamsters want your MONEY. I feel this will not end well for the fine Flex guys and gals.

 

[DirtyBeech]

Money is a key part of it. NJ's is unable to help due to a no compete clause, and Options can't because they don't have the money. There needs to be a 700 plus member pilot group to go it alone. It's very simple. The teamsters are the only viable option. You should consider the fact that this has been thoroughly explored by grown men and that the decision for representation wasn't made in a flippant manner.

You can feel whatever you want. Up to this point you have been poorly informed. Right now it's Teamsters or nothing, and quite a few folks are tired of what nothing is like.

 

[dime line]

I suspect NJA union types told the truth and the Teamsters did not. The Teamsters want your MONEY. I feel this will not end well for the fine Flex guys and gals.

Yea and the company wants for you to pay for your type rating and live 2 pilots to a room as well. Your also right the Teamsters want their 22%, news flash........their a business, just like the company!

 

[warlord19]

Dime Line, Dime Line, R U doing a line when you make a post. If u r goin to print a bald-face line, why don't you at least preface your BS with something like "You ain't goin to believe this, but..." No-one has ever paid for a type-rating at Flex(unless they broke the training contract), and we don't share rooms. Wouldn't you agree with my statement, Mr. DirtyB. After all, you work at Flex...are you going to agree with DL's line?
WL

 

[DirtyBeech]

19,

You missed his point. Badly. Think it through a few times more and see if you can make a connection between DL's post and the one he was responding to.

 

[bunman45]

There is really no need for talk on this forum. The real discussion is taking place elsewhere.

 

[fracjack]

Teamsters fight for respect and once they get it they don't give it back. Weigh the pros and cons and ask lotsa questions keeping in mind that management and unions WILL lie. You just need to decide who is more truthful. Talk to NJ and FLOPS pilots one on one and get many opinions,you can only get the real truth when they are free to speak without their peers around. A fractional has only one choice for union representation for a first CBA and as history has proven it does not need to be permanent. If you think it has to do with money you are entirely correct.

 

[G4dude]

Yea and the company wants for you to pay for your type rating and live 2 pilots to a room as well. Your also right the Teamsters want their 22%, news flash........their a business, just like the company!

This is a funny post! Unintentionally funny! Flex does not require any of these things. Another delightful characteristic of the beloved Teamsters is that they will take some of your dues and give the money to political candidates who disagree with most pilots at FlexJet.

 

[G4dude]

Money is a key part of it. NJ's is unable to help due to a no compete clause, and Options can't because they don't have the money. There needs to be a 700 plus member pilot group to go it alone. It's very simple. The teamsters are the only viable option. You should consider the fact that this has been thoroughly explored by grown men and that the decision for representation wasn't made in a flippant manner.

You can feel whatever you want. Up to this point you have been poorly informed. Right now it's Teamsters or nothing, and quite a few folks are tired of what nothing is like.

My only info is what I have read on this forum. I do know NJA threw them out on their collective- pun intended- butts.

 

[G4dude]

19,

You missed his point. Badly. Think it through a few times more and see if you can make a connection between DL's post and the one he was responding to.

I have reread it, and DL's post is still gibberish.

 

[dime line]

This is a funny post! Unintentionally funny!

Flex does not require any of these things.

Another delightful characteristic of the beloved Teamsters is that they will take some of your dues and give the money to political candidates who disagree with most pilots at FlexJet.

Can you not read beyond the intended context, I'm aware none of the fracs require these items.

 

[G4dude]

Yea and the company wants for you to pay for your type rating and live 2 pilots to a room as well. Your also right the Teamsters want their 22%, news flash........their a business, just like the company!

I apologize if I misunderstood, but I still don't get it. What was the point of this post? Please explain, not with elliptical language. If it was making fun of the Teamsters, I get it. Sometimes the written word can be misconstrued, even by a vastly superior "Guffstream" Pilot.

 

[Grizz]

Another delightful characteristic of the beloved Teamsters is that they will take some of your dues and give the money to political candidates who disagree with most pilots at FlexJet.

I'm not a big fan of the Teamsters and was one of the individuals that helped get us our own independent union, but that statement is false.

Unions are prohibited from doing that. They may however, start a PAC, solicit voluntary donations and use those funds for political purposes. The IBT most certainly does that.

 

[warlord19]

I reread DL's post and realize what he was saying...my apologies. That said, he then calls the Teamsters a business....uh, most folks whose eyes are open see them as an on-going criminal enterprise...I do. They and their ilk are in bed with the Democratic Party and eventually destroy the livelihood of whoever they “represent” by their outrageous demands and threats...businesses go
over-seas, develop robotics to replace humans, etc. If the few grieveance mongers who post here need a union to keep the big, bad, management foot off our throats, at least try to get one that “might” actually represent us ie inhouse etc (and yea, I know some of the difficulties involved in that....let's just take the easy way out, right? ( get the Devil, uh, the Teamsters). If the Teamsters are voted in and some of our more vocal proponents of unionization go on the MEC, I'll probably go to the Army Surplus, but a Japanese WWII sword, and commit Hari Kari (rather than have those genius's “represent” me). I think the majority of Flex pilots are mature enough to know the Teamsters are not a good answer to our few problems....I may be wrong.
WL