ASA JCBA: Longterm reserve pilot relief provision

[Nevets]

no ready reserve till midnight on your last day on, nothing scheduled past 8pm your last night on

Cannot do that at XJT either.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

777Forever wants to completely circumnavigate the very basis of the seniority system, because he has been on reserve for an overwhelming majority of his time at ASA. I honestly can't say that I blame him for wanting to move off of reserve, but I can't agree with him that its the best way to do it.

If the idea of flying reserves strictly to guarantee, why wouldn't you want your highest longevity and cost per unit at that level, instead of flying at 90 hours? I would think that flying the most senior guys the least would lower the overall costs. Perhaps this concept is not the most economical, but I'm open to ideas...

 

[ex j-41]

In order to have empathy you must sometimes walk in another persons shoes. I would vote yes. Eating the young has to stop.

 

[sayrejm]

Someone mentioned making ALL days GDOs:

NO! unless we can still move them.

GDOs are permanent and can not be moved. I like being able to move my off days around.

 

[BWatz]

I like being able to move my off days around.

And so does the company.

 

[701EV]

Express Jet had been losing money for 18 months. Why do you think that is?

Come on Speed don't fall for that!

Remember when Delta owned us, they said we were losing money.

Don't think for one minute that Jerry would have bought Express Jet if is was a losing proposition. Jerry sees the potential make lots of money.


Also quite a few line holders bid reserve for December. Now quite a few reserve pilots now have line in December.

No to the Provision.

 

[CRJCptn]

As a on again/off again line holder, I don't belive we need to force lineholders into reserve. We should however, overhaul the reserve system in a way that makes it beneficial for lineholders to WANT to bid reserve.

 

[COOPERVANE]

As a on again/off again line holder, I don't believe we need to force lineholders into reserve. We should however, overhaul the reserve system in a way that makes it beneficial for lineholders to WANT to bid reserve.

Agreed. But why is isn't the MEC focusing on THAT instead of silly half-baked plans like this proposal?

Lets make reserve something senior guys would WANT to bid, that would help everybody!!

Doesn't reserve go senior on some AC at Delta?

 

[CRJCptn]

Agreed. But why is isn't the MEC focusing on THAT instead of silly half-baked plans like this proposal?

Lets make reserve something senior guys would WANT to bid, that would help everybody!!

Doesn't reserve go senior on some AC at Delta?

I belive it is because of past practice. Senior lineholders don't even let it cross their radar. To make this work it is going to take a change in thought process as well as new rules.

I guess the only acid test would be a somewhere between what we have now and what would make DH want to bid reserve... lol

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Come on Speed don't fall for that!

Remember when Delta owned us, they said we were losing money.

Don't think for one minute that Jerry would have bought Express Jet if is was a losing proposition. Jerry sees the potential make lots of money.


Also quite a few line holders bid reserve for December. Now quite a few reserve pilots now have line in December.

No to the Provision.

XJet has been losing money. Jerry didn't buy a losing proposition. He bought a company that he can turn around by combining operations, and firing a lot of management that makes more than their comparative position at ASA.

 

[JumpersAway]

XJet has been losing money. Jerry didn't buy a losing proposition. He bought a company that he can turn around by combining operations, and firing a lot of management that makes more than their comparative position at ASA.

Since Delta "helped us out" by readjusting what they pay us per block hour flown, we are losing money also. The idea is exactly as stated above- grab an airline and it's revenue stream, but without the cost of it's management and operational structure. Roll both airlines into one nice package, and we should be profitable again. This is the reason behind the push for speed of aquisition.

 

[Abernathy]

I think every Union rep should have to sit reserve a few times a year.

And I agree that the company should not be able to move off days around. The fact that it is allowed to happen is pretty nasty.

 

[maxcackel]

I think every Union rep should have to sit reserve a few times a year.

And I agree that the company should not be able to move off days around. The fact that it is allowed to happen is pretty nasty.

I like that a lot, union members must fly reserve in the summer at least once.
Then again we have MEC members that have not even flown in years, that is crazy.

 

[nerjdriver]

Express Jet had been losing money for 18 months. Why do you think that is?

Its not because of the pilots contract you retard. Now go fly your E170 ******************************.

 

[Medeco]

We have a ton of middle of the pack line holders who have not been on reserve at all or more than 3 months.

To the idiot who says if it doesn't affect me I don't care (palm), you are a fool. God forbid one day we become a Comair and you have yourself on reserve again.

All days off should be GDo's with money on top of MMG if they are moved for any reason.

Make MMG higher for Reserve by 5 hrs.

With regard to the JCBA, do not forget that this company does not realize the true benefits of a combined company until it is fully merged, giving the pilot group the upperhand In negotiating a new contract.

Do not cave on anything that has no real cost to the company.

I don't have any problem with every pilot doing 1 month of RSV in a calendar year.