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General Lee said:
Not every plane has CPDLC. And when you don't have the APU, you can't fly on a regular track that has been set up for everyone else, which means MORE money being used to fly a random route closer to a shore (KEF, etc). It may be more favorable to fly on a seperate track, but you can't when you don't have that APU. That is why it RARELY happens. Get it? Did you fly with a lot of broken planes when you were flying your "INTL Supplemental??" That's just great for you. Were you flying Rich International DC8s? I bet you were...... Must have been FUN....???? And honestly, the sudaes are great.


Bye Bye---General Lee
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Uh, right....

Now let's be clear GL -- there is no restriction on being on the NAT system with an APU inop. Not sure what it is you're flying but if it's the 300ER then you are OK (if using a Boeing MEL) except beyond 120 ETOPS. Again, there is an area across the Atlantic where 120 is possible and it includes the area where the tracks are normally constructed. So, as long as you have your HMG you CAN fly the tracks if you remain 120. Maybe you should re-read the Orientation chart or have paid better attention to the Nav class designed by that Int. Supplemental carrier ATA. And no, I didn't fly for Rich nor did I fly a lot of broken equipment across the pond. What I did do was listen to a lot of those old Supplemental Captains -- those guys knew there sh1te about crossing the pond and having a good time. And yes, the airline I worked for then was synonymous with fun on layovers, I wouldn't trade those days for a gazillion sundaes.
 
StopNTSing said:
For the millionth time, please stop feeding the troll, people.
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Please folks can you give it a rest with this fool. If everybody would just ignore this idiot, you may find something useful. I get tired of scrolling through his 14K pieces of garbage. IGNORE the Troll.
 
Skybus said:
Please folks can you give it a rest with this fool. If everybody would just ignore this idiot, you may find something useful. I get tired of scrolling through his 14K pieces of garbage. IGNORE the Troll.
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True, true, I should know better than to vent on him, but he's just such an arrogant, egomaniacal blowhard... reading his drivel just makes me want to puke. I'll try and ignore the troll.
 
Dear General
As you can see I never post in FI. While I sit in my hooch on day 4 of a 60 day rotation in the desert, I want to thank you for the several minutes of mild laughter you have provided me here. Your errors and so egregious that they are quite funny. You are completely clueless regarding what it's like to work at SWA. You are also terribly ignorant and misguided regarding how we are paid for the work we do.... I'm serious about this. I came straight from the A.F. to SWA in 2004 because I wanted to fly for a major passenger carrier and I heard Southwest was a good choice. 6 years later, I have no complaints. I like the flying, crews, and am generally happy with our mangement. You commenting about our culture and ops would be like me commenting on what it's like to fly at Delta Internationally. IE no personal experience=no complete knowledge. Regarding your continuous rant over the multi leg Texas 2-step... (I'm senior enough to bid what I want) and once every couple of mo.s I specifically bid to fly a six leg Texas 2-steps. Why....because I enjoy it... Usually great crews (Dallas Gals) and the flying is still fun. Please continue to rant about Southwest for the next 54 days so I can continue to chuckle over your posts, this will help pass time quicker.
Mitch
 
mitch1209 said:
Dear General
As you can see I never post in FI. While I sit in my hooch on day 4 of a 60 day rotation in the desert, I want to thank you for the several minutes of mild laughter you have provided me here. Your errors and so egregious that they are quite funny. You are completely clueless regarding what it's like to work at SWA. You are also terribly ignorant and misguided regarding how we are paid for the work we do.... I'm serious about this. I came straight from the A.F. to SWA in 2004 because I wanted to fly for a major passenger carrier and I heard Southwest was a good choice. 6 years later, I have no complaints. I like the flying, crews, and am generally happy with our mangement. You commenting about our culture and ops would be like me commenting on what it's like to fly at Delta Internationally. IE no personal experience=no complete knowledge. Regarding your continuous rant over the multi leg Texas 2-step... (I'm senior enough to bid what I want) and once every couple of mo.s I specifically bid to fly a six leg Texas 2-steps. Why....because I enjoy it... Usually great crews (Dallas Gals) and the flying is still fun. Please continue to rant about Southwest for the next 54 days so I can continue to chuckle over your posts, this will help pass time quicker.
Mitch
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Mitch,

I personally know 3 HOU based SWA FOs (I fly E145s as a Capt in IAH), and they all work very hard. They tell me about their trips, and 2 of them left CAL for SWA and now wish they had not. You may be senior, but the junior guys at Southwest do get worked hard, and my 3 friends tell me about it all of the time. One said he often does the "California Shuffle", back and forth from SNA to SMF or SJC, with at least 5 legs or more during the middle of his trips. I told him "at least the wx is nice in California", and then he stated he does the same type of stuff out of MDW in the winter, and it drives him nuts. Not everyone enjoys it, and if you are senior you may be a lucky one.

And one more thing about Gen Lee, he is funny. He may not get it right all the time, but he is humorous. Everyone likes to get their panties in a wad, but just accept it for what it is, entertainment.
 
Rod
From what i hear, my brothers at the bottom of our list are unhappy because of 2 reasons: seniority stagnation and sitting continual Reserve. Most of them still like flying their individual SWA trips just not in the context of being at the bottom with all associated trappings. Next year's contract will deal with the Reserve issue and only post- Nov 2012 and and improving economy will fix the seniority issue. It s*cks for the boys at the bottom....I get that. Yes, I do feel very fortunate to be where i'm at.
m
 
Mitch,

Don't know how many contracts you've been through here but "fix the reserve system" aint gonna happen. That only helps the junior guys on each list. The deserving group is the senior guys. They are the ones that have had the hardest time dealing with the limited open time, darn lances, only 5 weeks of vacation.

The young guys will have plenty of tiime to make it up. I mean heck, they'll upgrade in 4 or 5 years and even get to spend an additional 5 years in the left seat on top of that! How dare they rock the boat.

On a serious note..... God Bless you my brother. Thanks for what you're doing. Be safe and hurry home.

Gup
 
GuppyWN said:
You'd better double check your ALPA definition of struck work. If WN flies from EWR to XYZ and so does CAL, it isn't stuck work. Struck work is flying CAL passengers on CAL tickets on SWA jets.

I can PROMISE you that I would never do that. Matter of fact you let me know when and where you boys are picketing and I'll bring my enormous gut over and walk with you.

I had no idea you guys were even pissed off. What gives?

Gup
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Three words.......SCOPE, SCOPE, SCOPE.

Unless the greed of the execs overrides their hatred of pilots and unions, we expect to be butting heads over scope.

The "new" UAL may be to big to walk off and shut the place down, but that doesn't mean we can't stay on property during self help and create chaos.
 
Personally- happines has much more to do with perspective- there are some things that could be improved- but my life got much better on day 1 at wn- and I came from a legacy and have had a great corporate job and a good rj job-

"perspective: use it or lose it"-
 
mitch1209 said:
Rod
From what i hear, my brothers at the bottom of our list are unhappy because of 2 reasons: seniority stagnation and sitting continual Reserve. Most of them still like flying their individual SWA trips just not in the context of being at the bottom with all associated trappings. Next year's contract will deal with the Reserve issue and only post- Nov 2012 and and improving economy will fix the seniority issue. It s*cks for the boys at the bottom....I get that. Yes, I do feel very fortunate to be where i'm at.
m
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Some of you guys need some perspective here.....15/16 days off on RESERVE ain't that bad. You know what REALLY sucks? Being furloughed. Yep, that sucks. Count your blessings already!
 
Whataburger said:
Bottom line: Neato-mosquito you work for Delta and fly to neato-mosquito places. For some of us, being a pilot produces a paycheck. I try not to tell people I'm a pilot. I saw flying as a way I could make a paycheck for 40 yrs. I reasearched the airlines. SWA has never furloughed, their people loved their job, they pay well, they plan very conservatively, and have historically grown consistantly. That was worth a $7k gamble for me. That's it.
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Yes, but you're missing the point that the General has made so eloquently for the last several years. He is held in high esteem by all, struts through international airports with his double-breasted goon suit, and essentially lives a much better life than the rest of us. If you can't get that through your thick head, I'm afraid you're doomed to the mediocrity of the non-legacy airline pilot lifestyle.

In all seriousness, I find it amazing that the General is still slinging this schitt after all these years. What a mega-strap-on tool.
 
Skank said:
Yes, but you're missing the point that the General has made so eloquently for the last several years. He is held in high esteem by all, struts through international airports with his double-breasted goon suit, and essentially lives a much better life than the rest of us. If you can't get that through your thick head, I'm afraid you're doomed to the mediocrity of the non-legacy airline pilot lifestyle.

In all seriousness, I find it amazing that the General is still slinging this schitt after all these years. What a mega-strap-on tool.
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All this from a guy named SKANK..... anyways........if I keep stating it, of course it MUST be true. And yeah, I do have a pretty good life. I feel fortunate. How are you feeling in Yonkers? Still suck? Yeah, I bet you do. Have a great one in your horrible life in Yonkers. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, except a Skank....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General Lee said:
All this from a guy named SKANK..... anyways........if I keep stating it, of course it MUST be true. And yeah, I do have a pretty good life. I feel fortunate. How are you feeling in Yonkers? Still suck? Yeah, I bet you do. Have a great one in your horrible life in Yonkers. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, except a Skank....


Bye Bye---General Lee
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I'll repeat: How many days off does a Delta Airlines pilot on reserve get?
 
Skank said:
Yes, but you're missing the point that the General has made so eloquently for the last several years. He is held in high esteem by all, struts through international airports with his double-breasted goon suit, and essentially lives a much better life than the rest of us. If you can't get that through your thick head, I'm afraid you're doomed to the mediocrity of the non-legacy airline pilot lifestyle.

In all seriousness, I find it amazing that the General is still slinging this schitt after all these years. What a mega-strap-on tool.
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Your right!! My bad.

Ps. part of this post might be bait.
 
I suspect the General is from some place where the Dukes of Hazzard were seen as real heroes, marrying your cousin was the norm, and he flew for a regional, just to turn around and try and "scope" them out of a job when (if) he got hired at Delta...
 

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