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Mesa Air files for Ch. 11 bankruptcy protection

Mesa Air files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, will restructure its business





On Tuesday January 5, 2010, 8:07 am EST
PHOENIX (AP) -- Mesa Air Group Inc., whose operations include flying regional routes for major airlines like Delta, United and US Airways, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, hoping to shed financial obligations for leases on airplanes it no longer needs.
Mesa, which currently runs 130 aircraft, said the filing will allow it to reorganize its operations and allow it to get rid of its extra planes and become more competitive.
Mesa said Tuesday that its go!-Mokulele Hawaiian joint venture with Mokulele Airlines is not included in the bankruptcy filing and will run a full flight schedule.
It said the rest of its operations are expected to run normally during the restructuring process, with Mesa anticipating it will win court approval to continue paying workers and the fulfilling code-share partner agreements within the next few days.
In November, United Airlines chose not to extend a deal under which Mesa ran 26 regional jets for that carrier. The Phoenix company also runs regional flights for carriers including Delta Air Lines and US Airways.
Regional jets are smaller than the planes that large airlines use on most of their routes. They are often used to bring travelers to hub airports, where they can connect with other flights.
The company also expects its restructuring to help it more quickly resolve its lawsuit against Delta, in which Mesa is seeking more than $70 million in damages. Delta has tried to terminate their deal.
Chairman and CEO Jonathan Ornstein said in a statement that Mesa has spent the past two years working with lessors, creditors and others in order to restructure its financial obligations, which in turn helped it get rid of more than $160 million in debt obligations; rework inventory management and engine overhaul deals and return some planes.
Ornstein said the company has enough liquidity to support itself during the restructuring.
Mesa voluntarily filed its Chapter 11 petitions with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York.
Mesa shares, which have traded between 1 cent and 36 cents over the past 52 weeks, closed Monday at 12 cents.
Mesa is a major commuter carrier and operates flights as Delta Connection, US Airways Express and United Express under agreements with Delta, US Airways Group Inc. and United Airlines.
 
Say goodbye? Why would Mesa operating in bankruptcy be different than every other airline that has been in bankruptcy or bankruptcies and are still operating? Nothing will change.
 
Say goodbye? Why would Mesa operating in bankruptcy be different than every other airline that has been in bankruptcy or bankruptcies and are still operating? Nothing will change.
I wouldn't say nothing is going to change. I am sure their cost structure will be going down. Not a good thing for any regional competing with them.
 
You'll probably find out when you report for work.... pilots and other employees are always the last to know when their company goes out of business.
 
Not going to hapen

You'll probably find out when you report for work.... pilots and other employees are always the last to know when their company goes out of business.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there is virtually no chance of a ch 7 for Mesa. They just filed a motion to affirm Delta's contract ( and no Delta doesn't get a vote) they will also hear the Delta lawsuit in BK court now.

All of the existing contracts are profitable and Hawaii is now making money. This is a very simple process, reject the airplanes nobody wants, continue to lead the industry in operating performance, and over the next 3-5 years extend the United and Airways contracts for longer terms.

Mesa is here to stay.
 
Wrong. It's a motion to force Delta to assume to contract or reject it, guess what Delta is going to do...

Delta: On a case-by-case basis, bankruptcy code allows for the assumption (affirmation and acceptance) or rejection (termination and surrender) of executory contracts prior to submission of a reorganization plan . This move makes it possible to force the issue out of the distict court into an assumption, rejection or settlement of the contract.

Aircraft leases: Raytheon files objection to Mesa's motion to abandon the 20 Beechcraft 1900D's after discovering their unairworthy condition. Raytheon previously seemed resigned to take back the aircraft until finding that the aircraft have been cannibalized of engines, etc. and improperly prepared for long term storage

Check out what Mesa did to those 1900:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mesa...37245/L/&sid=db9bd21dbdc073ec5cc7b891d2e178bf

You have no idea what you are talking about. Delta has no options here. The Debtor (Mesa) get's to decide what contracts it affirms and guess what the judge is going to do.

With regard to Raytheon, that is just normal delay tactics. The judge will find the aircraft, the paperwork, and airworthiness to be perfectly fine. What do you think will happen? Force Mesa to continue to pay leases?

Sorry you are an idiot.
 
You have no idea what you are talking about. Delta has no options here. The Debtor (Mesa) get's to decide what contracts it affirms and guess what the judge is going to do.

With regard to Raytheon, that is just normal delay tactics. The judge will find the aircraft, the paperwork, and airworthiness to be perfectly fine. What do you think will happen? Force Mesa to continue to pay leases?

Sorry you are an idiot.

Olympus is correct!!
 
Ughhhh

Sorry to burst your bubble but there is virtually no chance of a ch 7 for Mesa. They just filed a motion to affirm Delta's contract ( and no Delta doesn't get a vote) they will also hear the Delta lawsuit in BK court now.

All of the existing contracts are profitable and Hawaii is now making money. This is a very simple process, reject the airplanes nobody wants, continue to lead the industry in operating performance, and over the next 3-5 years extend the United and Airways contracts for longer terms.

Mesa is here to stay.

I'm sorry....I think i just vomited in my mouth a little bit.
 
...continue to lead the industry in operating performance...

Mesa is here to stay.

This was all I had to read of your post to know that it was flamebait but I'll bite anyway.

You've really gone off the deep end if you think Mesa has industry leading operating performance. Why do you think Delta wants to terminate their contract??? And you're calling Olympus an idiot???

I have no ill will toward the Mesa pilot group (they're just trying to earn a living like everyone else) but JO and his cronies need to find a different line of work and quit dragging the industry down, so here's to hoping Mesa goes Chapter 7, and soon! :beer:
 
You have no idea what you are talking about. Delta has no options here. The Debtor (Mesa) get's to decide what contracts it affirms and guess what the judge is going to do.

With regard to Raytheon, that is just normal delay tactics. The judge will find the aircraft, the paperwork, and airworthiness to be perfectly fine. What do you think will happen? Force Mesa to continue to pay leases?

Sorry you are an idiot.

Wait, how can you call this guy an idiot?

You may disagree with him, you may think that his interpretation of information is unsound, but to call him an idiot is just unfounded. He forms opinions based on facts, that makes him no more of an idiot than you or me.

Resorting to personal insults versus arguing facts and their interpretations actually makes your opinions less valid to those of us who know how to read.
 
You have no idea what you are talking about. Delta has no options here.
Sorry you are an idiot.

I'll try again, Mesa is forcing Delta to make a choice cancel or modify its contract so they can take that into account in their reorganization plan.
That what Mesa's motion is. Smart move from Mesa if Delta is not going to renew the contract pass it's expiration date they want to know now so they can reject those leases. If they did not and Delta did not renew the contract in 2012 when Mesa is out of chap 11, they are back at square one, 22 leases seating around and costing money.
Either way those 22 ERJ are gone.
 
With regard to Raytheon, that is just normal delay tactics. The judge will find the aircraft, the paperwork, and airworthiness to be perfectly fine.

Sorry you are an idiot.

With the engines missing? OK whatever you say.

Look at the picture on the link.
 

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