Say Goodbye to MESA

[Jar Jar]

Airways is in a position where they need to justify keeping mesa around because they cannot replace the 900 feed any other way.

I will say having ridden on the 900s regularly as a commuter that their entire products is inferior to that of any other regional feed provider in the airways network. Even in the past year, haven't seen much change with the mesa product.

 

[Metro752]

They should replace it with A318s at Piedmont in my opinion.

 

[CX880]

I have seen people in denial, but Rene takes the cake. Kind of reminds me of the Iraqui communications guy during the invasion.

LOL. What Americans? they are not here.

 

[Broke in CVG]

Believe it, its true. Also Mesa's pilots now have one of the better contracts in this industry another fact you folks keep denigrating.

Ah.... didn't they just lose a bunch of QOL work rules when management conveniently withdrew from PBS the day before BK?

It wasn't that great to begin with.... I hardly call it "one of the better contracts". More like, better than ********************ty.

And wait until JO bends you over during BK threatening the 113c. Just hope for Chapter 7 and a quick death, better than the death by boonga, boonga.

I'd like some of what ever Rene is smoking, please!!!

 

[doh]

LOL I am truly amazed at how you can continue to live in the past and deny fact after fact after fact. Several weeks ago US Airway's executives held a recognition event honoring Mesa for their 2009 #1 performance.

Honestly I am not making this up. I agree Mesa has had performance issues in the past but for the past year they have been simply outstanding.

Believe it, its true. Also Mesa's pilots now have one of the better contracts in this industry another fact you folks keep denigrating.

Go Vikings

Now I know why the Vikes lost! D-bag!

 

[CRJ puppy]

LOL I am truly amazed at how you can continue to live in the past and deny fact after fact after fact. Several weeks ago US Airway's executives held a recognition event honoring Mesa for their 2009 #1 performance.

Honestly I am not making this up. I agree Mesa has had performance issues in the past but for the past year they have been simply outstanding.

Believe it, its true. Also Mesa's pilots now have one of the better contracts in this industry another fact you folks keep denigrating.

Go Vikings

Okay, at this point I'm gonna have to say that this is just total flame bait. Please, please, please...everyone. Stop feeding the troll...he should go back under his bridge if you/we would only stop feeding him.

Thanks.

 

[Taco Rocket]

1. Mesa declares bankruptcy (done).
2. Gets rid of all ERJs, -200s, Dash-8s.
3. Left with 53 aircraft: all -700s and -900s (~13 with UA, balance with US), all in place with financing and utilization.
4. Furloughs down to ~500 pilots, kills Freedom, cuts off F8 management.
5. Lowers costs another ~20% with re-negotiated leases, less overhead, etc.
6. Collects about half or more of the $70M it is suing DL for (Freedom) in BK court (Delta settles to end pain in ass relationship).
7. Exits bankruptcy with over $100M in cash (new stock issuance + current cash + good cash flow).
8. Makes Parker a deal for contract extension of current -900 flying at lower cost (Mesa most competitive regional now after BK), which...
9. involves a takeover of PSA, thus injecting ca$h into US, takes pain in ass airline and Express division out of US' hands (again lowering US' costs while accepting a "partner's" "investment").
10. Mesa "Regional Airline of the Year" 2011.

 

[samuraiguytn]

At 99.4 CCF for full year 2009 Mesa was indeed #1 (This is up from 98.2% in 2008) Full year A-14 in 2009 was 82.9 up from 77.7 in 2008)

There is a a plaque to prove it hanging on the wall. I know you would like these numbers to be different but these are the facts. Why are Delta's and UAL's numbers suddenly not meaningful for purposes of this discussion?

Nice try, Maybe if you just shout Mesa sucks loud enough it will make it true.

I could go out and buy a plaque that says Im the worlds greatest pilot. That doesn't mean I am.

 

[rene]

Ah.... didn't they just lose a bunch of QOL work rules when management conveniently withdrew from PBS the day before BK?

It wasn't that great to begin with.... I hardly call it "one of the better contracts". More like, better than ********************ty.

And wait until JO bends you over during BK threatening the 113c. Just hope for Chapter 7 and a quick death, better than the death by boonga, boonga.

I'd like some of what ever Rene is smoking, please!!!

We never lost anything. PBS is alive and well at Mesa. We reached a settlement with management on two open grievances regarding PBS and management recinded the cancellation notice. We are now working on a LOA to make it even better.

BTW what is Death by Boonga Boonga or do I want to know?

 

[nerjdriver]

They should replace it with A318s at Piedmont in my opinion.

No I think they should do a codeshare with RAH's new A319s they just acquired. They could kick all the F9 pilots to the curb like they did with Midex crews, then buy Mesa's pilot academy to fill the seats.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Did you ever consider that the engines are nice and warm in a warehouse? Maybe engines are normally removed for long term storage?

Yeah,
Jo, "removed them for long term storage", they are most likely hanging on a Columbian/Peruvian coke manufacturers mule plane, ya know JO's partner.
PBR

 

[Gr82Aviate]

LOL I am truly amazed at how you can continue to live in the past and deny fact after fact after fact. Several weeks ago US Airway's executives held a recognition event honoring Mesa for their 2009 #1 performance.

Honestly I am not making this up. I agree Mesa has had performance issues in the past but for the past year they have been simply outstanding.

Believe it, its true. Also Mesa's pilots now have one of the better contracts in this industry another fact you folks keep denigrating.

Go Vikings

Wait,...what???? One of the "better contracts in this industry"???????














Someone's overdue for one of those random drug tests!!!!!!!!:nuts:

 

[Broke in CVG]

BTW what is Death by Boonga Boonga or do I want to know?

Three pilots have to appear in front of JO.

#1 steps up and JO asks, "do you want Death or Boonga, Boonga?"

#1 says, "I don't know what Boonga, Boonga is BUT I don't want to die, so I will take Boonga, Boonga." JO gets up drops his pants and bends #1 over the table and proceeds to Boonga, Boonga him.

#2 steps up and JO asks, "do you want Death or Boonga, Boonga?"

Well, now they know what Boonga, Boonga is but #2 doesn't want to die so he responds, "I'll take Boonga, Boonga." JO then says 2 Boonga, Boongas for you!

#3 steps up and JO asks, "do you want Death or Boonga, Boonga?"

Now, this 3rd pilot has had enough and there is no way he's going to let JO bend him over 3 times. So he defiantly says, "Death! I take Death!."

JO gets up and shouts - "DEATH BY BOONGA, BOONGA!"

That my friend is your choice during the upcoming Bankruptcy.

They're going to bend you over, or have the judge bend you over and JO is going to get his Boonga, Boonga one way or another.

 

[lindsaya99]

1. Mesa declares bankruptcy (done).
2. Gets rid of all ERJs, -200s, Dash-8s.
3. Left with 53 aircraft: all -700s and -900s (~13 with UA, balance with US), all in place with financing and utilization.
4. Furloughs down to ~500 pilots, kills Freedom, cuts off F8 management.
5. Lowers costs another ~20% with re-negotiated leases, less overhead, etc.
6. Collects about half or more of the $70M it is suing DL for (Freedom) in BK court (Delta settles to end pain in ass relationship).
7. Exits bankruptcy with over $100M in cash (new stock issuance + current cash + good cash flow).
8. Makes Parker a deal for contract extension of current -900 flying at lower cost (Mesa most competitive regional now after BK), which...
9. involves a takeover of PSA, thus injecting ca$h into US, takes pain in ass airline and Express division out of US' hands (again lowering US' costs while accepting a "partner's" "investment").
10. Mesa "Regional Airline of the Year" 2011.

It all makes sense now! Declare bankruptcy in order to terminate the leases on a few dozen 50 seat RJs, emerge from bankruptcy "flush with cash", then buy another airline which operates mostly 50 seat RJs. Brilliant!

 

[DiverDriver]

LOL I am truly amazed at how you can continue to live in the past and deny fact after fact after fact. Several weeks ago US Airway's executives held a recognition event honoring Mesa for their 2009 #1 performance.

Honestly I am not making this up. I agree Mesa has had performance issues in the past but for the past year they have been simply outstanding.

Believe it, its true. Also Mesa's pilots now have one of the better contracts in this industry another fact you folks keep denigrating.

Go Vikings

Since when did Mesa gets 747s? Your dick truly is larger than anyone else's here. <applauds> Bravo. But I thought you weren't going to post here anymore.

 

[Metro752]

Taken from APC today....


Calling Taco Rocket, Pdubs, Rene, Sniper..... calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard...

Mesa filed a motion today to "reject, abandon, transfer title, or surrender and return excess equipment"
Hearing scheduled Feb. 9th.

The exhibits include:

Excess Leased Equipment to be Rejected Immediatley

2 GE CF34-3B1
1 GE CF34-8C1
1 RR AE3007
1 GE CF34-8C5


Excess Leased Equipment to be Rejected on Date to be Determined, Subject to Further Notice

16 DHC 8-202
46 CL-600-2B19
12 CL-600-2C10
25 CL-600-2D24
35 ERJ 145


Owned Equipment that May be Subsequently Abandoned

2 CL-600-2B19
8 CL-600-2C10
13 CL-600-2D24


Key words:

"rejected immediately"
"subject to further notice"
"may be subsequently abandoned"


Translation:

Mesa Management's message to Creditors: "You'll take some of these off our backs or we'll dump 'em all on ya!"

 

[go!ng for broke]

shot gun on the dash 8's

 

[johndog]

Was an entertaning few minuets of reading. Rene kicked all of your a$$es.

Fact is that things have changed considerably since new ops management came in. Hope its not to late.....We shall see.

Bunch of small minds that frequint the FI kiddie (RJ) board. Now go sling someones gear and stick to "reading only".....no posting.

 

[Metro752]

Was an entertaning few minuets of reading. Rene kicked all of your a$$es.

Fact is that things have changed considerably since new ops management came in. Hope its not to late.....We shall see.

Bunch of small minds that frequint the FI kiddie (RJ) board. Now go sling someones gear and stick to "reading only".....no posting.

You're just upset everyone thinks you are a freedom A-lister cuz ur on the taco jet operating on the freedumb certificate.

 

[johndog]

You're just upset everyone thinks you are a freedom A-lister cuz ur on the taco jet operating on the freedumb certificate.

I had to take you off my ignore list to read your post. Wow I wish I had that thirty seconds back.

4506 posts. Dude......get a girlfriend.