FAA Revokes the two NWA Pilots licenses

[LittleDeuce]

CNN is reporting their licenses have been revoked. Very sad and very quick too.

 

[ultrarunner]

Sure was quick.

 

[S40Sailor]

CNN is reporting their licenses have been revoked. Very sad and very quick too.

I really wished they would have fell a sleep.
On the side, now they'll have a real life.

 

[aussieflyboy]

They did fall asleep... then lied about it. 1 1/2 hours of no communication and not once peeking at their MFD to see where they were? Because they were on a laptop? Do they take us for idiots?

 

[ultrarunner]

I really wished they would have fell a sleep.

I think they did sailor. And I suspect the investigation determined they lied about it, hence the revocation.

 

[ultrarunner]

I doubt the FO will answer his door tonight!

 

[COOPERVANE]

If true. Interesting they thought arguing or distracted by a laptop was somehow better than admitting to sleeping.

I wonder if they had kept their mouths SHUT and spoken to ALPA legal what the outcome would have been?

 

[ultrarunner]

If true. Interesting they thought arguing or distracted by a laptop was somehow better than admitting to sleeping.

I wonder if they had kept their mouths SHUT and spoken to ALPA legal what the outcome would have been?

I suspect they would still have the pilot certificates they worked so hard for!

So now, the NTSB has started the 48 hour clock to determine if a threat to safety exists.

What's interesting is that the NTSB must have felt these guys would be doing personal flying or be reinstated to the line. As it were, they were currently removed from airline flying status, so the emergency order would have no effect in their professional conduct.

 

[SEVEN]

If true. Interesting they thought arguing or distracted by a laptop was somehow better than admitting to sleeping.

I wonder if they had kept their mouths SHUT and spoken to ALPA legal what the outcome would have been?

Great point. If they lied, the outcome is much worse. Admit to sleeping, pull the fatigue card and try to improve rest/duty requirement, get terminated for inexusable behavior in the flight deck. 1 year later when public forgets, ALPA gets their jobs back. Honesty is always the best policy.

 

[WayBack]

I doubt the FO will answer his door tonight!

I would. Then I would be the media whooping boy when it came to the airlines problems. I would be the whistle blower and make some cash off of it.
There is no reason for them to try and get other flying jobs, the money they would make wouldn't be worth it.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Brutal. But merited.

Game over.

 

[WayBack]

Great point. If they lied, the outcome is much worse. Admit to sleeping, pull the fatigue card and try to improve rest/duty requirement, get terminated for inexusable behavior in the flight deck. 1 year later when public forgets, ALPA gets their jobs back. Honesty is always the best policy.

Right after they get the two drunk America West pilots their jobs back.

 

[S40Sailor]

I think they did sailor. And I suspect the investigation determined they lied about it, hence the revocation.

If they indeed lied, that wasn't the best move.
I guess we shall see.
In the meantime good luck to all of us, who knows what kind of nonsense rule is on our way.

 

[SEVEN]

Brutal. But merited.

Game over.

Not yet. Don't forget about Good Morning America and a book deal worth 5 years of pay.

 

[ultrarunner]

If they indeed lied, that wasn't the best move....

Sure isn't. Especially when the FBI is asking the questions. You have GOT to come clean when the FBI asks you a question. Simple as that!

 

[SEVEN]

Sure isn't. Especially when the FBI is asking the questions. You have GOT to come clean when the FBI asks you a question. Simple as that!

Isn't it a crime with penalties if you lie to federal investigators?

 

[flynryan15]

Yes, if they can prove you lied! Though it is very hard for them to prove it think Barry Bonds.

 

[shearedshaft]

Sure isn't. Especially when the FBI is asking the questions. You have GOT to come clean when the FBI asks you a question. Simple as that!

You don't have to say a word to the FBI. "I refuse to answer this question because it may self-incriminate me."

There is never (not once) a good reason to talk to a law enforcement officer when they are after your heiney. It's not like they're going to take your excuses and say, "Oh, ok. Never mind."

 

[ultrarunner]

Isn't it a crime with penalties if you lie to federal investigators?

Yes, it is a felony. I'm not sure what class of felony in Minnesota, but it is a felony.

 

[SEVEN]

Yes, it is a felony. I'm not sure what class of felony in Minnesota, but it is a felony.

For their sake...I sure do hope they told the truth. If not, I'm pretty sure the truth will come out eventually.