For All You FLOPS BJ Pilots, a little memory lane action

[brokeflyer]

Well, you may be an A&P, but your capacity with the company is ATP. Having an A&P doesn't automatically allow you to perform maintenance and determine airworthiness, especially on a 135 aircraft. You should know that, Mr. Mechanic.

i AM the one who decides if the plane is airworthy, once again listen up. Ill explain it one more time.

If everything on the plane is working or within the MEL then the plane plane flies. I make that decision.

If something is broken or out of limitations, then the plane don't fly. I make that decsion.

Each flight will fall under one of the above, that is decided by me regardless of where we are.

Understand? I can't really make it anymore simple so just say "yes, I understand now thanks" and have a nice day.

 

[fischman]

That's pretty much what I'm saying. I have not ever suggested not to write something up that is broken. Rather, not to write something up that isn't broken. You all know it happens, look in the mirror. And as far as carrying squawks goes: waiting until you get to a MX base is as bad as waiting until you are at a place where you know there's no MX then writing it up. You all know the latter happens too. Where you are, how the union negotiations are going, and your hate for management should have no bearing on what, if anything, gets written up. But again, you all know this happens too.
Typical.

So it took 23 pages and 339 posts and you finally figured it out? Good for you!!!

No one EVER said ANYTHING about writing up airworthy items. As a matter of fact, if you go back to the beginning of the thread I believe I posted "Never do anything illegal FOR or AGAINST the company."

 

[fischman]

I can't really make it anymore simple so just say "yes, I understand now thanks" and have a nice day.

Yes. I understand now. Thanks. :beer:

 

[B19 Flyer]

i AM the one who decides if the plane is airworthy, once again listen up. Ill explain it one more time.

If everything on the plane is working or within the MEL then the plane plane flies. I make that decision.

If something is broken or out of limitations, then the plane don't fly. I make that decsion.

Each flight will fall under one of the above, that is decided by me regardless of where we are.

Understand? I can't really make it anymore simple so just say "yes, I understand now thanks" and have a nice day.

Yep, and chalk another one up on the trend list. Just don't whine when you get fired and the judge supports the company. You knew it was coming.

You explain to the judge how the all powerful PIC has the right to apply subjective definitions to the items on this list and ignore those of the manufacturer.

 

[brokeflyer]

read my post again.....

your apology will be accepted.

 

[fischman]

Yep, and chalk another one up on the trend list. Just don't whine when you get fired and the judge supports the company. You knew it was coming.

You explain to the judge how the all powerful PIC has the right to apply subjective definitions to the items on this list and ignore those of the manufacturer.

Better to be fired than dead.

I wouldn't want to work for a company that operates like that anyway.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Better to be fired than dead.

I wouldn't want to work for a company that operates like that anyway.

and I wouldn't want a pilot using his opinion rather than than that of the designer to detirmine the airworthiness of a piece of equipment.

Guys like you fischman are unsafe because you place your own standards on items that you didn't design or understand. It works both ways.

If you apply your own standards to detirmine how an an item works, can you be trusted to really know when an item DOESN'T work as designed?

Because you say so?

Wrong answer and proves that you really don't have a clue as to what is safe or operating properly.

Guys like you that operate outside of the manufacturer's standards are more unsafe than those that do and shouldn't be flying.

 

[imacdog]

Unfortunately for your argument B, erring on the side of caution enhances aviation safety and is what professional pilots, not union busters like you, get paid for. Keep grasping at straws though, you're doing a great job.

 

[fischman]

and I wouldn't want a pilot using his opinion rather than than that of the designer to detirmine the airworthiness of a piece of equipment.

Guys like you fischman are unsafe because you place your own standards on items that you didn't design or understand. It works both ways.

If you apply your own standards to detirmine how an an item works, can you be trusted to really know when an item DOESN'T work as designed?

Because you say so?

Wrong answer and proves that you really don't have a clue as to what is safe or operating properly.

Guys like you that operate outside of the manufacturer's standards are more unsafe than those that do and shouldn't be flying.

That's funny.

So I'm unsafe because I choose NOT to fly when I'm unsure of the airworthiness of an item?

That's really funny! I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.

 

[B19 Flyer]

That's funny.

So I'm unsafe because I choose NOT to fly when I'm unsure of the airworthiness of an item?

That's really funny! I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.

You think it's funny. I think it's arrogant that you apply your own standards instead of company and industry standards.

If you apply your own standards to say that it's not airworthy, how do you know when it is airworthy?

What a joke you are... you're unsafe fischman....