Hudson Ditching Left Engine Running at 35%

[Browntothebone]

That is very interesting.

I seriously was wondering why he didn't go for runway 11 at Newark. If you look where he put it down, I think he easily could have made 11 in Newark.

Especially if he had engine thrust on one engine.

Heck, he could even pull a CAL, and land on the taxiway for 11 in EWR. It is slightly closer than the runway. LOL

Very interesting.

I agree.

 

[amcnd]

That should have been enough thrust in order for "sully" to make it to TEB or back to LGA.

A high bypass engine make all its thrust in the last 20% N1. 35 % would not even get the thing taxiing on one engine. He was smart to leave it running for hydraulics. And less flaps on landing was smart also!! he did a great job for only having 3 minutes!!

 

[say again]

He wasn't on the ground genius.

Over the head!

 

[Pocono Pilot]

A high bypass engine make all its thrust in the last 20% N1. 35 % would not even get the thing taxiing on one engine.

Um, ever hear of breakaway thrust? Or is that just something jet pilots know about!LOL

 

[Sandhawk]

Isn't it interesting how "Brown-on-his-bone", "Instructor-Doosh", and "Poke-her-hole Pylit" all post back-to-back...........

 

[Browntothebone]

Isn't it interesting how "Brown-on-his-bone", "Instructor-Doosh", and "Poke-her-hole Pylit" all post back-to-back...........

Interesting.... I wonder if they are the same?

 

[say again]

Isn't it interesting how "Brown-on-his-bone", "Instructor-Doosh", and "Poke-her-hole Pylit" all post back-to-back...........

3 peas-in-a-pod. They all belong together. hahaha:beer:

 

[AA717driver]

Boy, this thread really brought out the FI brain-less trust...

TC

 

[aa73]

Love the new avatar, AA717... the DC9 was one of my favorite aircraft in Tee-Dub colors.

 

[Browntothebone]

Love the new avatar, AA717... the DC9 was one of my favorite aircraft in Tee-Dub colors.

That was the old "9". The new "9" is much more fuel efficient.

 

[BOHICAgain]

next time you are on a 4 mile final shut down an engine and put the other one at 40 N1 and see how fast the airplane sinks

 

[OPECJet]

Hhhmmmm....

Teterhole... Lots of antennas. Some terrain (mostly a few hills), short runways, highly populated somewhat residential area, hospital nearby...

Newark..... NJ Turnpike, lots of industry around, chemicals, lots of people on the ground....

Hudson... Not much to hit, water ferries running around all over the place...

I'll take rivers for 155 Alex.....

Nice of you guys to second guess a crew's actions though. Thank you, drive through...

 

[instructordude]

next time you are on a 4 mile final shut down an engine and put the other one at 40 N1 and see how fast the airplane sinks

I'm pretty sure you would get fired if you did that with passengers on board. Give me a break.

I did try what happened to Sully in the Sim and at home on the computer and I made it!! It wasn't pretty but I made it.

 

[b707guy]

Just curious what kind of motors this plane had? 35% N1 is pretty close to flight idle at lower speeds and altitudes on CFMs anyway, which wouldn't have anywhere near 35% if windmilling at speeds under 250, so maybe the engine was still producing at least a little bit of thrust. At least enough to keep it going with the generator and hydraulic loads, thankfully! I seriously doubt that whatever it may have been putting out did anything to extend their glide much beyond a pure engine out path.

All else being equal, would 70% N1 on one engine really keep this airplane level? I would have figured it'd need a little more juice than that.

I'm sure this scenario will be played out in A320 sims around the world, and maybe, just maybe, on the 20th try, knowing it was coming, doing everything dead on, one in ten of us may be able to make it to TEB, possibly even hitting a runway there. Notice I didn't say "land on". Not even a snowball's chance for EWR. These guys absolutely made the best choice, and made it under total duress.

edit: saw from the "1549 recap" thread (excellent read, BTW....) that the plane had CFMs on it. The geometry makes TEB look maybe a bit more likely than what I thought above, but they still absolutely made the best choice under the conditions.

 

[pilot error]

As long as they were making power on one they should have continued on to charlotte.