Colgan - Teamsters NMB Vote

[suupah]

Vote for IBT if that is what you want. but no matter how you feel it is important that you VOTE!!!

 

[Smarta$$]

Playinski wrote-

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My position on the union has changed. From being for it to against it. I don't plan on being here at colgan for my then a couple more years like most of us. Hell if Alpa is unable to negotiate a contract with pinnacle mgmt then how are they going to get us a contract. It would be one thing if it was the old family owned colgan air. but its not, it is pinnacle the same company that has denied a new contract for over two years. So it boils down to this, who wants to pay 2% for then next few years for no improvement. By the time colgan gets a contract we will be gone, so let the future colgan pilots go through the same crap they we go through now both good and bad. All the regionals suck and are under paid. Wages will increase with demand, just like anything else. With fewer pilots and an increasing demand we will have a choice, its a fact. So I say no to the union and will not be voting next month. End Quote.

What a tool. And with an attitude like that, you have NO credibility anyway.

 

[Nevets]

How is that allowed to happen, JoeMerchant?

It happens because ALPA was forced to use negotiating capital to reign in and scope in alter ego airlines like Freedom and Teamster airlines like Gojets.

 

[Nevets]

Playinski wrote-

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Hell if Alpa is unable to negotiate a contract with pinnacle mgmt then how are they going to get us a contract. It would be one thing if it was the old family owned colgan air. but its not, it is pinnacle the same company that has denied a new contract for over two years. So it boils down to this, who wants to pay 2% for then next few years for no improvement. By the time colgan gets a contract we will be gone, so let the future colgan pilots go through the same crap they we go through now both good and bad.

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If Colgan pilots unionized they immediately go into status quo until CBA is ratified. That means that Colgan can no longer change work rules or pay whenever they feel like it. Whatever terms of employement existed, exist without change until you get a contract.

 

[Fred Rogers]

I think that if you want to write in Teamsters, fine, do it. But before you do, think of this.

The ALPA drive started weeks AFTER the Teamster drive. ALPA filed with the NMB with 70% of the pilot group submitting cards before the Teamsters could even get 35% (the minimum required to hold an election). That is why the Teamsters are not on the ballot and I feel a good indication of the quality of representation one would see between ALPA and Teamsters.

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

 

[Fred Rogers]

I think that if you want to write in Teamsters, fine, do it. But before you do, think of this:

The ALPA drive started weeks AFTER the Teamster drive. ALPA filed with the NMB with 70% of the pilot group submitting cards before the Teamsters could even get 35% (the minimum required to hold an election). That is why the Teamsters are not on the ballot and I feel a good indication of the quality of representation one would see between ALPA and Teamsters.

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

 

[Fred Rogers]

I think that if you want to write in Teamsters, fine, do it. But before you do, think of this:

The ALPA drive started weeks AFTER the Teamster drive. ALPA filed with the NMB with 70% of the pilot group submitting cards before the Teamsters could even get 35% (the minimum required to hold an election). That is why the Teamsters are not on the ballot and I feel a good indication of the quality of representation one would see between ALPA and Teamsters.

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

 

[Fred Rogers]

sorry for the triple post, site acting funny

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

 

[CopilotDoug]

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

Cute response, Rez...

Fred, ALPA (or any Union) will only be as Professional and Organized as the pilot group in question. Just wanted to clarify that.

 

[Fred Rogers]

Fred, ALPA (or any Union) will only be as Professional and Organized as the pilot group in question. Just wanted to clarify that.

While I agree with you that a union is only as good as its representatives, you must concede that ALPA's structure is inherently much more organized and professional than the Teamsters.

If you are commenting on the professionalism of the Colgan ALPA OC members, then I must agree again that they have been top notch. Telling only facts while management spreads their lies.

 

[WayBack]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

Haven't you heard of the old saying "Never bring a laptop to a baseball bat fight!"???

"careful Phil, he has a laptop. He means serious business with it. I heard ALPA Laptops have a program, explaining how to bend over and take pay cuts. When it comes to that, they do have more experience than any other Union."

Hey Rez, heard that if you hack into a ALPA laptop, you can find a picture of you and PCL128, all lubed up in oil, rolling around on a bear skin rug while wearing diapers, bonnet and sucking on your thumbs.

 

[WayBack]

While I agree with you that a union is only as good as its representatives, you must concede that ALPA's structure is inherently much more organized and professional than the Teamsters.

If you are commenting on the professionalism of the Colgan ALPA OC members, then I must agree again that they have been top notch. Telling only facts while management spreads their lies.

Well I hope they're well prepared and organized. You see how much money they rake in on dues? It's not like they're using them for much.

I'm far from a company guy. But ALPA needs to get into the manure business. They seem to produce the most of it, and can shovel it at a record rate.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Haven't you heard of the old saying "Never bring a laptop to a baseball bat fight!"???

I made the mistake of bringing a laptop to a baseball bat fight once. It was terrible...

 

[Andy Neill]

Stating the obvious here.....If a Colgan pilot casts an anti-ALPA vote for IBT and the vote is 26% ALPA, 25% IBT and 49% No/not voting, ALPA will be the representative body.