Colgan - Teamsters NMB Vote

[Fred Rogers]

I think that if you want to write in Teamsters, fine, do it. But before you do, think of this:

The ALPA drive started weeks AFTER the Teamster drive. ALPA filed with the NMB with 70% of the pilot group submitting cards before the Teamsters could even get 35% (the minimum required to hold an election). That is why the Teamsters are not on the ballot and I feel a good indication of the quality of representation one would see between ALPA and Teamsters.

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

 

[Fred Rogers]

I think that if you want to write in Teamsters, fine, do it. But before you do, think of this:

The ALPA drive started weeks AFTER the Teamster drive. ALPA filed with the NMB with 70% of the pilot group submitting cards before the Teamsters could even get 35% (the minimum required to hold an election). That is why the Teamsters are not on the ballot and I feel a good indication of the quality of representation one would see between ALPA and Teamsters.

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

 

[Fred Rogers]

sorry for the triple post, site acting funny

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

 

[CopilotDoug]

ALPA is a much more organized, professional union than the Teamsters. The Colgan Organizing drive just proved it.

Cute response, Rez...

Fred, ALPA (or any Union) will only be as Professional and Organized as the pilot group in question. Just wanted to clarify that.

 

[Fred Rogers]

Fred, ALPA (or any Union) will only be as Professional and Organized as the pilot group in question. Just wanted to clarify that.

While I agree with you that a union is only as good as its representatives, you must concede that ALPA's structure is inherently much more organized and professional than the Teamsters.

If you are commenting on the professionalism of the Colgan ALPA OC members, then I must agree again that they have been top notch. Telling only facts while management spreads their lies.

 

[WayBack]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

Haven't you heard of the old saying "Never bring a laptop to a baseball bat fight!"???

"careful Phil, he has a laptop. He means serious business with it. I heard ALPA Laptops have a program, explaining how to bend over and take pay cuts. When it comes to that, they do have more experience than any other Union."

Hey Rez, heard that if you hack into a ALPA laptop, you can find a picture of you and PCL128, all lubed up in oil, rolling around on a bear skin rug while wearing diapers, bonnet and sucking on your thumbs.

 

[WayBack]

While I agree with you that a union is only as good as its representatives, you must concede that ALPA's structure is inherently much more organized and professional than the Teamsters.

If you are commenting on the professionalism of the Colgan ALPA OC members, then I must agree again that they have been top notch. Telling only facts while management spreads their lies.

Well I hope they're well prepared and organized. You see how much money they rake in on dues? It's not like they're using them for much.

I'm far from a company guy. But ALPA needs to get into the manure business. They seem to produce the most of it, and can shovel it at a record rate.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Haven't you heard of the old saying "Never bring a laptop to a baseball bat fight!"???

I made the mistake of bringing a laptop to a baseball bat fight once. It was terrible...

 

[Andy Neill]

Stating the obvious here.....If a Colgan pilot casts an anti-ALPA vote for IBT and the vote is 26% ALPA, 25% IBT and 49% No/not voting, ALPA will be the representative body.

 

[DX Rick]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

I'm glad that you're sold on presentation and image alone.
Now try paying attention to the clogged up toilet we call a Union.

 

[Afraid to Fly]

DX Rick,

How the heck do you know what is going on at Colgan or why they might not need a union? Your airline and experience with ALPA is completely different than what a Colgan pilot might be going through.

 

[JoeMerchant]

It happens because ALPA was forced to use negotiating capital to reign in and scope in alter ego airlines like Freedom and Teamster airlines like Gojets.

...alter ego carriers that were created by misguided mainline scope sections.....We are our own worst enemy.....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

It's telling that a union diehard ALPA cheerleader would attack another union.....It's all about business..on BOTH sides....

Don't believe the hype....

 

[JoeMerchant]

I'm glad that you're sold on presentation and image alone.
Now try paying attention to the clogged up toilet we call a Union.

...not only that....but he is attacking a fellow union...some solidarity......

 

[CopilotDoug]

...not only that....but he is attacking a fellow union...some solidarity......

and Rez gets caught with his pants down...

 

[Nevets]

...alter ego carriers that were created by misguided mainline scope sections.....We are our own worst enemy.....

I agree 100% and now its going to take sacrifice from us pilots to put the genie back in the bottle. But that wont ever happen with a hodge podge of union and non-union pilot groups.

 

[PCL_128]

...alter ego carriers that were created by misguided mainline scope sections.....We are our own worst enemy.....

You're a one trick pony, Joey, and it's not even a very good trick.

 

[DOVPILOT]

Any Colgan pilot that votes for Teamsters needs to have his head examined.

I'll second that, the Teamsters are just money grabbing idiots that will not represent you in your time of need.....GO ALPA

 

[DOVPILOT]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

I have worked for a real Teamsters Local (107), which I would agree with the above statement, however this is Local 747. They bring stupid, half drunk, uninformed representation to the meeting/arbitrations....GO ALPA...Teamsters suck A$$