Colgan - Teamsters NMB Vote

[DX Rick]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

I'm glad that you're sold on presentation and image alone.
Now try paying attention to the clogged up toilet we call a Union.

 

[Afraid to Fly]

DX Rick,

How the heck do you know what is going on at Colgan or why they might not need a union? Your airline and experience with ALPA is completely different than what a Colgan pilot might be going through.

 

[JoeMerchant]

It happens because ALPA was forced to use negotiating capital to reign in and scope in alter ego airlines like Freedom and Teamster airlines like Gojets.

...alter ego carriers that were created by misguided mainline scope sections.....We are our own worst enemy.....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

It's telling that a union diehard ALPA cheerleader would attack another union.....It's all about business..on BOTH sides....

Don't believe the hype....

 

[JoeMerchant]

I'm glad that you're sold on presentation and image alone.
Now try paying attention to the clogged up toilet we call a Union.

...not only that....but he is attacking a fellow union...some solidarity......

 

[CopilotDoug]

...not only that....but he is attacking a fellow union...some solidarity......

and Rez gets caught with his pants down...

 

[Nevets]

...alter ego carriers that were created by misguided mainline scope sections.....We are our own worst enemy.....

I agree 100% and now its going to take sacrifice from us pilots to put the genie back in the bottle. But that wont ever happen with a hodge podge of union and non-union pilot groups.

 

[PCL_128]

...alter ego carriers that were created by misguided mainline scope sections.....We are our own worst enemy.....

You're a one trick pony, Joey, and it's not even a very good trick.

 

[DOVPILOT]

Any Colgan pilot that votes for Teamsters needs to have his head examined.

I'll second that, the Teamsters are just money grabbing idiots that will not represent you in your time of need.....GO ALPA

 

[DOVPILOT]

Union presentation:

ALPA beings laptops, data and ppt presentations...

Temasters bring bats..... fugeddaboutit.....!

I have worked for a real Teamsters Local (107), which I would agree with the above statement, however this is Local 747. They bring stupid, half drunk, uninformed representation to the meeting/arbitrations....GO ALPA...Teamsters suck A$$

 

[DOVPILOT]

The teamsters drivers at UPS were going to honor the IPA picket line if the UPS pilots went on strike....

That is more of a reason NOT to go Teamsters and go IPA/(insert your own union name here). This is the problem with Local 747, you are treated like a real member if you are a truck driver than an airline pilot....VOTE ALPA !!!!!

 

[CopilotDoug]

I agree 100% and now its going to take sacrifice from us pilots to put the genie back in the bottle. But that wont ever happen with a hodge podge of union and non-union pilot groups.

How long has this utopian idea of ALPA representing every airline group been around? No disrespect to you, Nevets, but it boils down to alot of pilots talking the talk and not walking the walk. And for a number of very good reasons ranging from seniority and pay to attrition.

It's akin to the new college grad armed with all his book knowledge...first thing he's going to do when he graduates is grab the world by the balls...in theory, it works.

 

[DX Rick]

You're a one trick pony, Joey, and it's not even a very good trick.

One trick pony? Look at yourself, man.
ALPA can do no wrong according to you.
If you wouldn't trust your career in the hands of another Union or the airline management. Why did you chose to go to a Non-ALPA airline?

 

[Nevets]

How long has this utopian idea of ALPA representing every airline group been around? No disrespect to you, Nevets, but it boils down to alot of pilots talking the talk and not walking the walk. And for a number of very good reasons ranging from seniority and pay to attrition.

It's akin to the new college grad armed with all his book knowledge...first thing he's going to do when he graduates is grab the world by the balls...in theory, it works.

The theory is working for the Longshoremen.

 

[CopilotDoug]

The theory is working for the Longshoremen.

How many kids today are racking up thousands of dollars in debt to be trained as a longshoreman? How many spikey haired, back pack wearing newbies are working the docks? That's only where the differences start.