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FBN0223

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Does anyone have any information for pilots placed in the NWA pool. One NWA class was just a week or so from starting when the class was cancelled. My guess is that Pilot HR at NWA is dead and all future hiring will be through Delta. Any information or educated guesses are appreciated. Thanks
 
I was jumpseating the other day and the FO has a friend in the pool and he was under the impression that the pool would be dissolved. Any new hiring would probably be done by Delta, and the poolies would have to apply and interview again.
 
I'm currently in the pool, but not holding my breath...it's anyone's guess at this point.
 
Someone on our Dalpa board stated that a friend of his (?) attended a job fair in Chicago recently, and both Delta and NWA had a booth. The Delta people said we would hire 100 or so next year, and the NWA people said 450.(remember, we have seperate certificates for atleast all of 09, so that is possible--a total of 550 that is) Why that many? Probably NOT due to all of the retirements that NALPA said would happen, but rather the manning changes we gave them when they got our contract and rules associated with it. If you got hired on the NWA side, you would probably go to a DC9 or a bus(I doubt the 747FE at ANC will be an option much longer, IMO). On the Delta side, you might go to the MD88, 738, or 767ER in JFK.(just a guess) I don't know if those numbers are accurate, but there you have it. Let's hope we do hire that many.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Probably NOT due to all of the retirements that NALPA said would happen, but rather the manning changes we gave them when they got our contract and rules associated with it.


I am under the impression that we don't have to man to the Delta requirements for many months. That being the case, if they need to hire, it will be for a multitude of reasons. Retirements would be one of those reasons. Pulling more 9s out of the desert may be another. Either way, that is good for our poolies. Remember, our pilots don't have to retire at 65.
 
I am under the impression that we don't have to man to the Delta requirements for many months. That being the case, if they need to hire, it will be for a multitude of reasons. Retirements would be one of those reasons. Pulling more 9s out of the desert may be another. Either way, that is good for our poolies. Remember, our pilots don't have to retire at 65.

Remember, I said I had read that the guys said 450 NEXT YEAR, which could be a few here and there, until they possibly hit that number. As far as guys retiring at age 65 or earlier, NALPA gave the impression that 1000 were going to go all at once. That didn't happen. And, you also have to remember that some LARGE planes may leave the fleet (very good chance), so that might mitigate any increase due to some DC9s coming out of the desert. I too hope we do a lot of hiring regardless.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
That didn't happen. And, you also have to remember that some LARGE planes may leave the fleet (very good chance), so that might mitigate any increase due to some DC9s coming out of the desert. I too hope we do a lot of hiring regardless.

Hmmm, that's not what Eddie boy said in MSP. He told the group there that there were going to be significantly FEWER changes in fleet makeup due to logistics.

No changes to 747-2, or SEA or ANC Fleet makeups.

So, I wouldn't call that a very good chance.

MD-90s leaving, though? Very good chance. Can't support having just 16 when there are other AC already in the fleet doing the same job.

Nu
 
Hmmm, that's not what Eddie boy said in MSP. He told the group there that there were going to be significantly FEWER changes in fleet makeup due to logistics.

No changes to 747-2, or SEA or ANC Fleet makeups.

So, I wouldn't call that a very good chance.

MD-90s leaving, though? Very good chance. Can't support having just 16 when there are other AC already in the fleet doing the same job.

Nu

That's funny, that's not what B.C. said (a VP of route networks) at an incommand session just a week ago. He said "they're gone." Do you really think Eddie would just come up and say "Hi, I'm your new CEO, and here is what you are losing." As far as the MD90s go, they are debating whether or not they can get enough to support a fleet (50 or so needed), and they are still looking to see if they can do that. (Although Saudia has 28 for sale NOW) They are looking at other things right now from your friends inbetween MSP and DTW, and that does look promising, as stated by RA in a recent incommand session. We'll see, but you and I (and the arbitrators) know what will stay and what won't (like your 94 DC9s----do you really have that many?), and the confidential statements in the testimony will show the way eventually. If the 742s do stay---fantastic! Our proposal for the SLI has me in the top 10% if those FOs----I can't wait to be Sarah Palin's neighbor.(after the fence is up)

Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General,

That 450 on the NWA side, would those be hired through NWA at MSP?
 

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