NW/DL (and ultimately affecting ALL of us): The Flaw With "Career Expectations"

[Voice Of Reason]

Can anyone tell me what the rainbow of colors are? I get that red book is prob NW and green book likely Republic...what is blue book? Is that what they are calling Delta or something already in place at NW?

 

[Skybus]

BROTHERHOOD???????? HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! This IS the funniest thing I have heard since Obama Hussein promised a tax cut.

 

[Donsa320]

Can anyone tell me what the rainbow of colors are? I get that red book is prob NW and green book likely Republic...what is blue book? Is that what they are calling Delta or something already in place at NW?

Blue book were pilots hired after the 1986 merger date. The color coincides with the color of the cover of the contract they worked under at the time.

Nothing sinister.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

This IS the funniest thing I have heard since Obama Hussein promised a tax cut.

I wonder if his "inauguration" (ugh) will include that given middle name like every other president has?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Blue book were pilots hired after the 1986 merger date. The color coincides with the color of the cover of the contract they worked under at the time.

Nothing sinister.

Thanks, Donsa...didn't think it was sinister...just didn't know what it referred to.

 

[dbrownie]

Blue book pilots are the post merger pilots from

Republic/Northwest and the largest group.

What you won't read here is that we were treated like

redheaded stepchildren by the green and red guys.

Thus Blue book pilots will probably be very loyal to

Delta and align with Delta issues issuses quickly.


IMO

Dave B

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Hopefully you are well represented on the merger committee and any transitions teams.
Since you're "blue book," are there any differences in reserve schedules between the two companies? How has (or did) reserve work out for you, and will it change?

 

[dbrownie]

I was hired early in 1997 and have never been on

reserve. (thankfully)

It is a complicated system (to me) so best if I

don't try to explain it!

It does seem to work well for the people who live

close to base.

DB

 

[licorice]

The company you naively THOUGHT would allow you to be a new hire in a widebody NO LONGER EXISTS. Amazingly though, Voice, scores of DL new hires nevertheless find themselves actually physically present in the cockpit of a widebody aircraft each week, flying across the Atlantic ocean or to South America. Please explain how this is a "naive thought".



You CHOSE a company that MERGED with another...now one company with two sides that bring varying lengths of service to the table. .......and.. "Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing wether that pilot group, or any pilot group, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure"

If I were on either side I would watch very carefully the fences you decide to put up, considering to half of the pilots BASE and QOL mean eons more than equipment. What good is protecting your widebody if they send them to say JFK, SLC, LAX, or some similarly undesirable base to the majority? From the sound of it they plan a huge shuffle of NW equip to DL bases and vice versa. You're right, Voice, SLC-too many good schools, too little welfare, and too much skiing. Same with LAX, -California, you know, -nobody goes there anymore, that's why it's the most populated state in the country. --But, take MSP and DTW, for example.....please, take MSP and DTW... ..Oh, and.. here's "to the majority" (I'll drink to that!):beer:


(As for the illiterate poster who thought me "promoting" RIF was Reduction in Force even after I spelled out Reading Is Fundamental...thanks for illustrating exactly the type of incoherent post I was referring to)

I couldn't find the reference to RIF as "reduction in force" any where Voice-man. Perhaps you imagined that "illiterate" post, then projected it onto someone, thus, your "illustration of an incoherent post" may really be just an "illustration of incoherent thought".... Honestly, Voice, I thought you were drunk last night, but now I realize you probably weren't, so I apologize for making fun of your posts, and promise not to do so any more. Have fun...

 

[Heavy Set]

Voice of Reason seems to be out of it. I don't fly for either of those 2 airlines, but it is easy to see that Delta is bringing more to the merger. Nicer planes, better bases, etc. Does anyone else fly DC9s other than Venezuela and some countries in Africa? I think I saw an ABX DC9 the other day on a cargo ramp somewhere.