Comair Furloughing 300

[Ocity]

sad but true...

 

[contrail67]

so much for this only being at the legacy airlines....
sucks.

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

so much for this only being at the legacy airlines....
sucks.

So, are you saying that it didn't suck when it was only legacies? I'm sure you are one of those who says that mainline pilots snub you...and wonder why???

Yogi

 

[waka]

So, are you saying that it didn't suck when it was only legacies? I'm sure you are one of those who says that mainline pilots snub you...and wonder why???

Yogi

If someone comments how much it sucks that CAL is furloughing after UAL announced furloughs doesn't mean they're saying it doesn't suck about UAL. It just means more bad news. More bad news sucks. You're reading too much into his statement. Cut down on the caffeine pal.

 

[contrail67]

So, are you saying that it didn't suck when it was only legacies? I'm sure you are one of those who says that mainline pilots snub you...and wonder why???

Yogi

Hey Yogi....

Back off of the honey dude...just saying it sucks..thats all. The focus has been at the legacy airlines...which I work for...not good when it goes to the regionals as well....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

True, and there will be more blood shed by all of oil stays where it is.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Atleast after 9/11, the regionals were a semi-halfway decent place to hang out while life sorted itself out. Now, the number of places to hang your hat are limited.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Hey Yogi....

Back off of the honey dude...just saying it sucks..thats all. The focus has been at the legacy airlines...which I work for...not good when it goes to the regionals as well....

Hmmm. The regional guys didn't seem to mind too much about their rapid expansion post -911 while legacy guys were being furloughed.

Oh well, maybe Delta will hire furloughed Comair pilots just like Comair hired furloughed Delta pilots .... :erm:

 

[Flybet3]

If someone comments how much it sucks that CAL is furloughing after UAL announced furloughs doesn't mean they're saying it doesn't suck about UAL. It just means more bad news. More bad news sucks. You're reading too much into his statement. Cut down on the caffeine pal.

He should work for FOX news.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Hmmm. The regional guys didn't seem to mind too much about their rapid expansion post -911 while legacy guys were being furloughed.

Oh well, maybe Delta will hire furloughed Comair pilots just like Comair hired furloughed Delta pilots .... :erm:

J.H.C. Can we, honestly, get past this kind of crap already.... Comair didn't hire Delta furloughees, 2002 ASA newhires were overheard in the DFW terminal celebrating all the "new flying" they were getting while mainline Delta guys were hitting the street, American was flowing down to Eagle far in excess of those who flowed up, American was bending over TWA as well now that I think about it.. the industry pretty well sucked for several years. Then it got back on it's feet.... finally... for about 9 months.... and here we go again.

I'm rambling. I'll stop. My only point is that, unless oil reverses course drastically (which it will not), we are in for a few years that will make the 9-11 aftermath look silly. We're all going to hurt here, folks. There will be furloughs everywhere (yeah, I know.... not Southwest.... but if this lasts long enough, even they will be feeling this pain.) Now is not the time to be rubbing salt into old wounds. There are going to be plenty of mainline guys and regional guys rubbing shoulders in the unemployment lines soon enough. It's about time we let bygones be bygones I think. There's going to be far to much sh!t fighting against us in the near future to afford us the luxury of fighting amongst ourselves.

I hope some of that makes sense. I'm far too tired to proofread it and, quite frankly, the Bourbon is doing most of the talking at this point...

 

[Jonny Sacko]

Has Comair been hiring? Can someone post the hire date that will go to?

 

[airlinepilot]

Bad news of course but doesn't this belong in the Regional area.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Sure, since Delta pilots are responsible for who the company hires, just like the Comair pilots were responsible for hiring at their carrier. Troll...

Hmmm. The regional guys didn't seem to mind too much about their rapid expansion post -911 while legacy guys were being furloughed.

Oh well, maybe Delta will hire furloughed Comair pilots just like Comair hired furloughed Delta pilots .... :erm:

 

[FlyingSig]

Sure, since Delta pilots are responsible for who the company hires, just like the Comair pilots were responsible for hiring at their carrier. Troll...

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[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']TO: Comair Pilots[/FONT][FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']
FROM: J.C. Lawson, Comair MEC Chairman
DATEecember 16, 2002
Your MEC met in CVG with the Delta MEC Chairman, Captain Will Buergey, at his request, to discuss preferential hiring of furloughed Delta pilots at Comair. Through this letter, I hope to dispel rumors and provide a more thorough understanding of the purpose and outcome of that meeting.

The Delta MEC, while in session at the bi-annual October Board of Directors meeting in Hollywood, Florida, formally directed the Delta MEC Chairman via resolution to meet with the Comair MEC Chairman to seek preferential hiring for furloughed Delta pilots at Comair while allowing them to retain their Delta seniority.

The general philosophy held by the Comair MEC is:

We are sensitive to the regrettable plight of all furloughed pilots in our industry.
We encourage our management to hire pilots who seek a future at Comair.
We have formally approached Comair management and our management has agreed to preferential hiring of furloughed ALPA pilots.
We agree with our company's policy that requires prospective Comair pilots to resign their seniority at their previous carrier.
We believe our Company's industry-standard policy requiring seniority resignation is sound and wise. It promotes the general health and welfare of all Comair employees and serves to protect the future of our company.
At our meeting in CVG, Captain Buergey offered preferential hiring to Comair pilots if the Comair MEC would recommend to Comair management that they hire furloughed Delta pilots and allow them to retain their Delta seniority.

Your MEC responded that hiring any pilots at Comair who do not resign their seniority at their previous carrier gives rise to numerous substantive concerns. The Delta MEC's offer of (future) preferential hiring at Delta is not sufficiently substantive to overcome those concerns and solicit Comair pilots' support. We suggested three alternative concepts, any one or all of which might lead to a mutually beneficial solution:

Relax the Delta PWA, Section 1, seat restrictions imposed upon Comair and ASA that limit our growth in 70-seat and larger airframes.
Negotiate Delta Brand Scope language with Delta management that defines all Delta flying within the Delta revenue stream to be performed solely by Delta, Comair, and ASA pilots.
Negotiate a plan for future integration of our Delta, Comair, and ASA pilots seniority lists that fairly recognizes the efforts and contributions of all.

The Comair MEC stands ready to work with the collective MEC's to bring about change that makes sense in a challenging economic environment and works for all pilots who perform flying under the Delta brand. As we stated in the Tuesday, December 3rd meeting, our door is still open.

COMAIR MEC
AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL
SUITE 120 3940 OLYMPIC BOULEVARD ERLANGER, KY 41018
859-282-9016 FAX 859-283-5533

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Care to restate that?

 

[Medeco]

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Care to restate that?

OHHH SNAP!!!