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flyboyzz1 said:
I see where to get my airman certificate info http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/copy_of_certification_records/

I don't see how to get the PRIA information or information that former Airline employers may have written...any help?
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Interesting. The FAA has updated its website.

1. Any PRIA requests sent previously by an airline or the FAA should have sent you a copy at the same time. Far as I know, there's no other way to learn what they sent after the fact.

2. To instigate your own FOI / Privacy act request, you can follow this link. Fill it out, send it in, and the FAA will give you all the information it has on you regarding incidents, accidents, enforcement history, etc. Highly recommend it, because this can have stuff on it a PRIA report wouldn't reveal, and unlike a PRIA, ANYONE can request it on you and you'd never know.

[SIZE=-1]http://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/more/

If you want to know why a PRIA and FOI from the FAA might show different info, go here:

[/SIZE] http://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/overview/media/Info%20Provided%20By%20PRIA%20FOIA%20and%20PA.rtf

3. If you want to know what former employers might actually send before you get your copy of a PRIA, you'll have to call the HR dept and ask for a copy of your file. It might cost $$, but it's best not to have surprises if you didn't check out your file before you left. They're not supposed to forward anything beyond 5 years, and they're only allowed to froward certain disciplinary things (for ex: Can forward how you violated an FAR while flying Pt 121, cannot forward that you called in sick too many times).

Here's a link that shows what they're SUPPOSED to send, but things can fall through the cracks . ..

Long winded FAA legal version (57 pages):

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf
(go here and look up AC120-68d.pdf)

Cliff notes version here (recommended):

http://www.fordharrison.com/shownews.aspx?show=3304


4. To get every (non-enforcement) piece of info the FAA has on you, follow the link below. If you've been in aviation awhile, it will be a thick packet. Also good to get. Costs a couple of bucks.

http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/media/COMPRQST.pdf
 
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thanks! I'll read it when I get a few minutes. I was just worried after reading the original poster brought up the topic. So why would SkyWest threaten this if it has no business on a PRIA?
 
I'm not sure. In 2006 the rules were less clear, for one thing. The AC specifically says that they need to include why you left (terminated, resigned, disqualified, furloughed, etc.).

However, under the current rules, I suspect the kind of snark comment forwarded on the PRIA report would be considered "extra" information that isn't required; as such, Skywest might be opening itself up to a lawsuit.

And I'll be the first to admit . . . ALPA or another union on the property would be a good way to keep this stuff from happening.
 
consult an aviation lawyer - if you're an AOPA member you get some low-cost counsel, for a limited duration.

I think Skywest is wrong to attempt to punish you for something you in fact did not do or know about, that occured post-employment.

I bet a lawyer-crafted letter to the HR at St. George would get them to change their tune.

As far as "ineligible for re-hire" I'm not sure this has anything to do with PRIA anyway.

Just don't need to look for a new job before this gets straightened out.

-Skywest reject
 
Yeah, too bad that some of those children did not vote for ALPA, you could have fixed it with one call.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I spoke with SKW's POI yesterday and he wassn't much help. He is a little new to the job but he is trying to get it figured out. I'm going to write him a letter and he will look into it.

I will also be talking to a few lawyers (luckily I have 2 in the family), and SKY will definately be getting a response from me. I wish it wouldn't have to go to this level but the chief pilot won't return my phone calls. Oh well, it may be for the best.
 
Metro752 said:
I work at the Kool-Aid factory as a double agent for the SGU Krew.

I spike your Kool-Aid, you're going to die of cancer slowly in a few years
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wow. nice going man. not only can you not answer the simple question i presented you(twice) but your an embarrasment with regards to your commets on such a touchy subject as well.

you are actually about what i expected you to be, and not the slightest bit more.
 
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ILOVEBEER said:
Even if I wrote it, I don't think they can legally do this.





I just spoke with John Ryan at the FAA and he recommended that I call SKW's POI. Apparently the POI does the PRIA oversight. He seemed to think that if SKW changed the records after I left, that that is not only inappropriate but may be falsification of records. I guess we'll see...
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I could see my wife doing something like that actually...

I'm pretty sure you can get this fixed.

I find it extremely unlikely that SKW can legally change your PRIA records based on something which occured after you left their employment. While they could certainly refuse to rehire you for something which occured post-employment (ie DUI), the PRIA is supposed to cover your employment period only...not your life history.

The fact that you didn't write the remark should also get you off the hook.

Contact the Chief Pilot's office, and politely explain the situation. I'd probably do it via certified mail (so they know you are not kidding). Maybe include a letter of apology from your wife to prove that it wasn't you. I'm pretty sure they will change your records.

If they don't, contact the FAA and consider hiring an attorney. You probably don't want to explain this situation at a future interview.
 
Hell, they already ruined the lives of about 400 Skyway guys, why wouldn't they ruin one more????? Don't you just love the whole skywest way of thinking!
 
It seems this has already cost you much more than $50 in time and head aches. Maybe next time you will just pay your bills in a timely manner. Oh yea, and thanks for leaving. One less whiner I have to fly with!

Grow up people!
 
Flyerdan said:
It seems this has already cost you much more than $50 in time and head aches. Maybe next time you will just pay your bills in a timely manner. Oh yea, and thanks for leaving. One less whiner I have to fly with!

Grow up people!
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Wait wait wait, so you agree your scumbag company should charge $50 for PRIA paperwork?
 
Flyerdan said:
It seems this has already cost you much more than $50 in time and head aches. Maybe next time you will just pay your bills in a timely manner. Oh yea, and thanks for leaving. One less whiner I have to fly with!

Grow up people!
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Couldn't have said it better.

Hey Metro, you gonna answer my original question I posed to you for the third time now? Are you gonna re-apply to SKW soon? :laugh:
 
kj6991 said:
Couldn't have said it better.

Hey Metro, you gonna answer my original question I posed to you for the third time now? Are you gonna re-apply to SKW soon? :laugh:
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I've never applied to Skywest, I couldn't handle being in Utah, or working with a bunch of clowns drunk on Koolaide
 
Flyerdan said:
It seems this has already cost you much more than $50 in time and head aches. Maybe next time you will just pay your bills in a timely manner...
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I'm sending you a bill for $100 for reading this post.

Is it unreasonable? What does it matter... it'll cost you more than $100 in time to fight it, so why don't you just pay it?

Because it's a ridiculous, trumped-up bill?

Exactly.
 
kj6991 said:
so for the 4th time answer my original question. where do you work?
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Why is this such a pressing issue for you? It's not my fault you make your place of employment, which I break wind upon from a distance, so very obvious online.

With such unscrupulous morons such as yourself, I wouldn't put it past you and your Koolaide Krew to try and make my life miserable. So, eat some more of that ******************** they feed you, in your dark room, and enjoy the Koolaid rain showers.
 
Flyerdan said:
It seems this has already cost you much more than $50 in time and head aches. Maybe next time you will just pay your bills in a timely manner. Oh yea, and thanks for leaving. One less whiner I have to fly with!

Grow up people!
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What? You should probably re-read my original post.
 
Metro752 said:
Why is this such a pressing issue for you? It's not my fault you make your place of employment, which I break wind upon from a distance, so very obvious online.

With such unscrupulous morons such as yourself, I wouldn't put it past you and your Koolaide Krew to try and make my life miserable. So, eat some more of that ******************** they feed you, in your dark room, and enjoy the Koolaid rain showers.
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Alright well I gotta go do happy hour with my kool-aid drinkin' crew here in a bit. just let me know when you wanna re-apply and i'll see what i can do for you. we can chase blondes in SLC when i'm there for recurrent.
 

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