Funny SkyWest story

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Good, follow up.

 

[ILOVEBEER]

Instead of going through all this, it sure would be nice to just make one phone call to ALPA...

 

[Soverytired]

duplicate

 

[Soverytired]

how does one get there pria record to sample

Former employers have to provide you with everything they have upon request. They may charge a nominal fee, and different companies have different procedures.

You can PRIA yourself to the FAA anytime. However, if you go this route you should also do a FOI and Privacy act records check, because:

• Your PRIA doesn't show your whole FAA file
• A FOI / Privacy act will show more and
• Anyone (!!) can make a request via FOI for your FAA file, and you will never be notified of the request or the information that was sent out.

It's a good idea to do one when looking for other jobs. I know of guys who had nothing on the PRIA, but then found out that they were in fact "investigated" and had a "incident" on their records they were unaware of.

For example, an evacuation means a mandatory "incident" that will be on your file for 5 years, and will NOT show up on a PRIA, but will show up on a FOI.

How to do this is on the FAA.Gov site.

 

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Letters of Warning and Correction that the FAA expunges in their files after 24 months can live forever under a PRIA report if the Company wrote a letter (which is usually the case).

 

[flyboyzz1]

Thanks Soverytired

 

[flyboyzz1]

I see where to get my airman certificate info http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/copy_of_certification_records/

I don't see how to get the PRIA information or information that former Airline employers may have written...any help?

 

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Just Google PRIA. The FAA has a plethora of sample letters you can send to your former employers.

Or just write your former employer ... "please send me a copy of any information you would send a prospective employer in response to a PRIA request." Expect a couple of weeks for a reply.

 

[Ezralite]

After my new employer sent in for my PRIA records, I received a bill in the mail for $50 from SkyWest as an "admin fee" or something. Well, I am rarely at home so I never saw these bills and my wife never said anything to me about them and she just decided not to pay them. They then sent her a letter that said that they were going to send us to collections if we didn't pay them. So my wife, not wanting this to affect our credit, paid them. The problem is that she made the check out to "SkyWest Aholes" and in the memo section wrote "for Jerry's sex change".

When she told me about this, I laughed uncontrollably for a few days but didn't think anything about it. Well, the other day we received a FedEx letter from SkyWest saying that due to my "unprofessonal remarks about their chairman" that my employment status has permanently been changed to "inelligable for rehire" and this change will be reflected on my PRIA records.

Now I'm not laughing as hard; still laughing, but not as much. I guess this could realy get interesting on my next PRIA inquiry.


Edit - BTW, I left SkyWest in Oct. 2006, and now, a year and a half later....

Your wife is awesome. When is the soonest time I can have sex with her?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

$50 isn't that about the price of those "Jesus Jammies" they sell down there in Utah ?

Yeah,
But that cash goes into the kool-aid fund in SGU.
PBR

 

[Soverytired]

I see where to get my airman certificate info http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/copy_of_certification_records/

I don't see how to get the PRIA information or information that former Airline employers may have written...any help?

Interesting. The FAA has updated its website.

1. Any PRIA requests sent previously by an airline or the FAA should have sent you a copy at the same time. Far as I know, there's no other way to learn what they sent after the fact.

2. To instigate your own FOI / Privacy act request, you can follow this link. Fill it out, send it in, and the FAA will give you all the information it has on you regarding incidents, accidents, enforcement history, etc. Highly recommend it, because this can have stuff on it a PRIA report wouldn't reveal, and unlike a PRIA, ANYONE can request it on you and you'd never know.

[SIZE=-1]http://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/more/

If you want to know why a PRIA and FOI from the FAA might show different info, go here:

[/SIZE] http://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/overview/media/Info%20Provided%20By%20PRIA%20FOIA%20and%20PA.rtf

3. If you want to know what former employers might actually send before you get your copy of a PRIA, you'll have to call the HR dept and ask for a copy of your file. It might cost $$, but it's best not to have surprises if you didn't check out your file before you left. They're not supposed to forward anything beyond 5 years, and they're only allowed to froward certain disciplinary things (for ex: Can forward how you violated an FAR while flying Pt 121, cannot forward that you called in sick too many times).

Here's a link that shows what they're SUPPOSED to send, but things can fall through the cracks . ..

Long winded FAA legal version (57 pages):

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf
(go here and look up AC120-68d.pdf)

Cliff notes version here (recommended):

http://www.fordharrison.com/shownews.aspx?show=3304


4. To get every (non-enforcement) piece of info the FAA has on you, follow the link below. If you've been in aviation awhile, it will be a thick packet. Also good to get. Costs a couple of bucks.

http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/media/COMPRQST.pdf

 

[flyboyzz1]

thanks! I'll read it when I get a few minutes. I was just worried after reading the original poster brought up the topic. So why would SkyWest threaten this if it has no business on a PRIA?

 

[Soverytired]

I'm not sure. In 2006 the rules were less clear, for one thing. The AC specifically says that they need to include why you left (terminated, resigned, disqualified, furloughed, etc.).

However, under the current rules, I suspect the kind of snark comment forwarded on the PRIA report would be considered "extra" information that isn't required; as such, Skywest might be opening itself up to a lawsuit.

And I'll be the first to admit . . . ALPA or another union on the property would be a good way to keep this stuff from happening.

 

[kj6991]

Skywest is a pile of ********************. Worse than MESA.

and you work where?

 

[Metro752]

and you work where?

Not for that flaming scab pilot of Kool-aid drinking outfit known as SKywest. I feel sorry for all the ASA pilots who have to deal with you clowns.

 

[CX880]

Not for that flaming scab pilot of Kool-aid drinking outfit known as SKywest. I feel sorry for all the ASA pilots who have to deal with you clowns.

Dude chill out, they're pay is as $hitty as yours.

 

[Sam Snead]

consult an aviation lawyer - if you're an AOPA member you get some low-cost counsel, for a limited duration.

I think Skywest is wrong to attempt to punish you for something you in fact did not do or know about, that occured post-employment.

I bet a lawyer-crafted letter to the HR at St. George would get them to change their tune.

As far as "ineligible for re-hire" I'm not sure this has anything to do with PRIA anyway.

Just don't need to look for a new job before this gets straightened out.

-Skywest reject

 

[Metro752]

bumping for greatness

 

[siucavflight]

Yeah, too bad that some of those children did not vote for ALPA, you could have fixed it with one call.

 

[kj6991]

Not for that flaming scab pilot of Kool-aid drinking outfit known as SKywest. I feel sorry for all the ASA pilots who have to deal with you clowns.

You still haven't answered my question? Where do you work?