All of the back and forth crap about 2% this, and we have it pretty good is totally missing the point. No wonder 65% voted no. The real issue is missing in all of this fluff.
Not to beat a dead horse but...
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT SAPA SAYS, WHO THEY "ELECT", HOW MANY TIMES THEY TALK TO JERRY, WHAT FUZZY GOOD FEELINGS THEY TALK ABOUT...
THEY HAVE NO POWER, NO STANDING TO NEGOIATE ANYTHING. MANAGEMENT CAN DO ANYTHING WITH OUR WORK RULES, FLEET PLANS, INTEGRATION(SCREWING OF) WITH ASA, PAY RULES, VACATION RULES, AND ON AND ON.
And this is the part that all of you working at Sh$$thole places like Mesa say, well you guys at SKYW have it pretty good, your pay is ok, your work rules are ok. Why are you complaining, be happy with what you have.....
That is not the point....Yes I am happy here, the reason I chose SKYW is because of the above mentioned things...
BUT....Maybe, just maybe I see some things that could be a little better. Maybe, just maybe, I really am a selfish pilot and I have something that I want for myself out of this job...That I am not currently getting....
ITS NOT THAT SAPA DOESN'T TRY.....ITS THAT SAPA IS POWERLESS!
SAPA:We want more than a 1% raise, a commuter policy, better pay protection, etc. etc....
SGU: No
SAPA: But, please.
SGU: No
SAPA: But, Pretty Please...
SGU: No
SAPA: But...
SGU: No.
SAPA: ok.
To all of those who voted no or chose not to vote -
I DON"T WANT TO HEAR ANY WHINING ABOUT...... pay issues, fleet issues, integration issues, quality of life issues, schedule problems, commuting issues, vacation issues, reserve issues, cancellation pay, Appendix D issues, any issue that makes this job what it is. ANY issue that ANYONE raises on either the SKYW or SAPA forums - DON"T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT - in fact lets just take down those boards so you all can't complain.
With this vote, we all, me included has lost the right to complain. This is the system we have. If you don't like it get out. Obviously we won't change it.
Either we as lowly employees should shut the F-up and let the company do what it needs to do to make JA and the board money - cuz' remember, no matter how many fuzzies we get from them - It is a business.
In that case, we should NEVER b!tch, complain, moan, try to guess and second guess what they are doing, NEVER get involved in changing things - no matter what the cost or inconvience to us as employees. Because to do so would interfere with the goal of running a business to make a profit.
or....
If we want to have the right to control ANY part of our destiny as employees of Skywest, then it our duty to get involved and partipate.
The problem with SAPA is as much as we "partipate" in the process it does us no good. You as a dedicated, informed employee can cast your vote on a pay proposal but if SGU doesn't want to abide by it, "they" won't. And there is absolutely no provisions for us as employees to appeal that process.
We are along for the ride. "They" will run the company in the manner best to make money for the board. Plain and Simple. Black and White. Cut and Dry. Nothing personal, just business. Any issues you or I care about do not matter - Everything that has been discussed ad nauseum on this board doesn't matter to them.
Just - How are those things affecting the bottom line?
So, my point is - next time you are mad or disappointed that the company is doing something to you that you don't like or agree with, keep those thoughts to yourself and be glad you have a job.
If you want the right to change things or to voice your displeasure at the company for; PBS, the pairings, your 3 hour sits in ORD, etc, etc, etc...
Then we have to figure out a way to HAVE a voice.
So, clock in, fly safe, go home.
If you are going to spend time and energy complaining about things to other pilots either while you are flying or on the message boards then answer this..
HOW ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING HERE? How are we going to IMPROVE "pay issues, quality of life issues, schedule problems, commuting issues, vacation issues, reserve issues, cancellation pay etc, etc...?"
HOW??????????????
Oh yeah, lets hold another SAPA election.
What now guys? All I hear, is whew not ALPA. OK. Great. But, everyone agrees that SAPA is a joke. Ok. Great. What now?
An in-house union drive failed. ALPA drives failed. Do you think there is a reason that the Teamsters or anyone else hasn't tried? Hmmmm...
Even with the Teamsters or ANY of available pilot unions out there - they have some of the same problems of ALPA. They ALL represent major airlines.
So, if any of you are willing to turn off Halo 3, get off the couch and start Regional Airline Pilots Assoc. and get nationwide partipation, go for it.
However, RALPA does not exist. So, again - do we really want to deal with SAPA and the status quo?
JA, BH, and CC are NOT IMMORTAL. Sorry to dissapoint. At some point in this companies history, they WILL NOT BE RUNNING THINGS. It is ridiculous to say just because we have had it good now, IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.
HAVE ANY OF YOU LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF THIS INDUSTRY? NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING stays the same, change happens. And when it does, believe me it will - Are we seriously going to benefit from the SAPA puppets leading us around.
Forward thinking people!
