TSA WARNING: Commuters must be in Uniform

[Tomct]

Just one more way for these "INEPT" IDIOTS to mess with us!:angryfire I am so sick of this BS...time to head to FFDO training!

 

[PositionandHold]

Wait so let me get this right. They're spending their resources sitting outside pilot crew lounges waiting to snag pilots (for kicks?) rather than sitting at the security line waiting to catch potential threats?

I don't get it.

I better enjoy corporate while I can, with all the shampoo and gels I could ever want in my duffel bag, transiting through mom 'n pop FBO's instead of terminals and monkeys in TSA uniforms.

 

[hawaiimei]

I accessed the actual instruction for air carriers and TSA security screeners. This document, the AOSSP, should be available to each one of you - if you are also an airline pilot.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

Had I read it before this I would have had an excellent defense to KEEP MY SHOES ON, and KEEP A "REASONABLE" AMOUNT OF LIQUIDS OVER 3oz IF THEY WERE PRE-DECLARED.

Any person can keep their shoes on, unless after the first attempt they set off the alarm. Both cases are located on page 7-2 under Sec 7.1(3) of the AOSSP; which you may again access through your security coordinator or company website.

Oh, and you guys that get turned around for boarding passes, or for not being part of an airline that serves that airport (say SWA trying to go to gates at DFW) - Amendment to sec 4.3.1B.1 that allows all pilots to do so under a certain condition that you normally do anyhow as a non-rev or jumpseater.

I encourage all of us Professional Airline Pilots to read and recite the TSA's regulations back to them when they appear to be poorly trained and/or misinformed. I'll start educating passengers too like "you dont really have to take your shoes off... just dont set off the alarm".

or

"All of y'all set off the alarm.... these guys are pains in the asses so this is your turn to overwhelm them - but dont do anything to compromise security by any means"
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[tomba187]

And whats even better, is that if you put your gels and liquids in your pockets, you can get them on the airplane since the metal detectors won't pick it up. Do they not think that the terroists have realized this, with liquid explosives?

 

[Captzaahlie]

i'm eating a very large messy bean burrito before my commute home from now on..... the tsa can search my wreck tum.........

 

[d328pilot]

Just another reason I am happy to be working in Asia now. It is really sad to look back and see what has happened back home, especially in regards to how the TSA has affected pilot's lives.

 

[Northern Lights]

It's all about the tap...

Not to mention checking everyone's DTW airport ID's in case some how the rent a cops that sit outside the door miss something that the card reader/punch code miss.... If only I knew that I could have such a rewarding/better paying job by NOT going to college.

But don't you feel so much safer after you hold out your badge and they tap it with their index finger?

 

[SplitBar]

Just another reason I am happy to be working in Asia now. It is really sad to look back and see what has happened back home, especially in regards to how the TSA has affected pilot's lives.

The TSA only affects your life if you let them. It's a small amount of control freaks and cry babies who get all worked up over a very simple process that only takes 1 minute out of your day. Play the game and play by the rules and just move on. Amazing how many pilots let this get to them. If you can't get thru TSA without getting all hot and bothered than thats your problem.

 

[30West]

Yeah, make sure you enjoy it, you never know when it will go away, I wish I was there.

The TSA is officially the dumbest governmental institution I have ever seen, and that is saying something, because lets be honest... there are some SERIOUSLY DUMB governmental institutions. TSA... the very worst one of all.

Replace the word "dumb" with "dangerous" in that paragraph and I'll agree 100%.
I'll lay a $100 bill on the TSA being directly responsible for allowing the next 9/11 to happen.

 

[Fred Rogers]

The TSA only affects your life if you let them. It's a small amount of control freaks and cry babies who get all worked up over a very simple process that only takes 1 minute out of your day. Play the game and play by the rules and just move on. Amazing how many pilots let this get to them. If you can't get thru TSA without getting all hot and bothered than thats your problem.

Sounds to me like you work in a place where they are not so bad. It varies from airport to airport. If you had to put up with some of this crap you'd be singing a different song Mr. Fat Dumb and Happy living in your base.

 

[dispatchguy]

i'm eating a very large messy bean burrito before my commute home from now on..... the tsa can search my wreck tum.........

A friend of mine, before he was furloughed from UAL, shortly after 9/11 when all the rules were changing, and the TSA was getting its rocks off dump searching every crew member, was flying out of a New England airport on the first flight of the day, this captain had just had it dealing with the dip$hits, and decided to screw em back.

This captain took a nasty pair of ripped and faded skivvies, tighty-whiteys, and spread inside them, a Baby Ruth bar, and laid it ontop in his roll-aboard.

TSA ******************************bag asks him to dump his bag going thru one day (in full uniform of course, since he is working the flight), and opens it it - displaying the skivvies for all to see. Captain is just staring straight forward (my friend said he could play some killer Poker), TSA ******************************bag sees the skivvies, decides not to go any farther, zips his bag closed, and sends him on his way.

They laughed all the way to Chicago. My friend flew with this captain the entire month, and loved it.

 

[A-V-8]

Embarrassment is a formidable weapon. Let’s find a news station and run a story on wasting our money and resources. We have all been through back ground checks and through security. Since I have access to the flight controls I really don’t ……..never mind I won’t even say it. So this is a complete waste of our tax dollars and security resources.

 

[relief tube]

this is a joke....there's no way he was followed to the damn bathroom.

I will continue to change in the stalls. A uniform that anyone can buy should not be the determining factor, a company ID and license are.

 

[Patriot328]

A lot of airports do not even require that you be in uniform to pass through security. I've seen pilots and FAs go through all the time in regular clothes with the liquids, whether they are non-reving or deadheading.

 

[Inconceivable]

The TSA only affects your life if you let them. It's a small amount of control freaks and cry babies who get all worked up over a very simple process that only takes 1 minute out of your day. Play the game and play by the rules and just move on. Amazing how many pilots let this get to them. If you can't get thru TSA without getting all hot and bothered than thats your problem.

A lot of people said that in 1933.

When ignorant thugs acting under color of state authority create their own "rules" and "procedures" in the name of "safety" you should be worried.

Like the bumper sticker says, If you aren't outraged, You haven't been paying attention.

 

[Baze]

Sounds like a wise use of time and resources by TSA.
They probably had to close another screening lane at the terminal to
pick on the XJ crews, but who cares? Long lines at security are totally
justified as long as full size tubes of tooth paste are confiscated from
commuting crewmembers.

I'm glad I don't commute any more. But, this madness has to stop.
Time to pick up the phone and call the union.

TSA was waiting outside XJ ops, in DTW, on Friday with their little cart waiting to do searches.

 

[Capn Lucky]

A lot of people said that in 1933.

When ignorant thugs acting under color of state authority create their own "rules" and "procedures" in the name of "safety" you should be worried.

Like the bumper sticker says, If you aren't outraged, You haven't been paying attention.

It is with deep regret that I must agree with this statement. The TSA MUST have checks and balances to assure that they focus of the threat, not innocent passengers and crew. There are obviously too many of them if they have enough time to engage in such activities.

 

[hawaiimei]

this is a joke....there's no way he was followed to the damn bathroom.

I will continue to change in the stalls. A uniform that anyone can buy should not be the determining factor, a company ID and license are.

VPS - 24 June at 1735CT, pull the tapes and then issue me your apology...

WHY:
I did antagonize them with a "are you flipping serious" I'll change right here (and did) and asked them to re run the bag and liquids as I would be in uniform by the time the bag came across the belt again. As a get even TSA power move - they did everything in their power to delay me getting through security the second time by asking a family of four for DRIVERS LICENSES and SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS or PASSPORTS for the toddlers in the bunch ahead of me.

These guys wanted me to miss that last flight of the day, and if you pull the records the flight was fortunately delayed over 25 minutes. They almost got me to miss my commute...almost.

TSA did nothing technically wrong, just enforced a stupid policy to the point of threatening me with going to Jail and a mandatory fine and court appearance. I don't hold them in the wrong here, and kind of support the supervisor's comment that he doesn't create the regulations but he does do a good job of enforcing them - followed quickly by "you are going to jail" but whatever there.....

Fine... you don't have to pay attention to my warning. I was just trying to help, and possibly get the pilots to speak to their unions to fix the blanket policy of screening crew members without cause.

 

[flyslow24]

Just remember

"WE'RE TAKING IT BACK!!"

 

[asa rat]

Get ready for more !

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