Lear70
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Made me spit coffee out my nose...Walk away with dignity... and come to work at NetJets.![]()
However, Green has a point. There will only be a handful of people who will take it to the mat, but sometimes a vocal minority is just enough to screw up the whole d*mn thing for everyone.
Personally, I'd just take all my sick time, accrued vacation, spend it all while applying at Netjets when I was approaching the date where a West guy would be able to bump me out of my seat, hopefully benefiting from some type of retirement deal in the new contract (something is better than nothing), then leave for a NJA or another corporate gig.
Can you PROVE they were on the verge of death?I just don't get it.....
One airline buys another which is on the verge of death. Seems logical to me where the dying airline's pilots should go on the seniority list. It's kind of a no brainer in my mind.
No one allows a major with that many leases to just shut down. Nearly destroyed some banks back in the day when EAL and PanAm did. Bankers are smarter than that.
No, I can't prove it. But neither can you. Which makes it a moot point for debating career expectations.
No, they didn't.Lear70--I don't know where you got the idea that Piedmont got stapled. They got DOH. They were just pissed that USAir came in and trashed their nice, profitible airline. PSA pilots should be pissed, too for the same reason.
I remember this pretty clearly, because of a funny story with my Dad at the time.
Just after his 30th birthday Piedmont called my Dad for an interview, sent him to class, then the 2nd day of class while bidding for aircraft (by age) they said, "Oh wait, you've already turned 30". Turns out the app was processed before his birthday, then he went to class AFTER his birthday and the max age for a new-hire pilot was "not over the age of 29" (obviously pre age-discrimination). So they sent him home.
2 months later UAir hired him. 5 years later he's sitting as a DC-9 F/O when the Piedmont integration comes in. He came home with the new seniority list in his hand and partied all night - not because the Piedmont guys got screwed - but because they had sent him home and he ended up senior to the vast majority of them.
Within months he was a 737 CA a LONG time before he ever expected to get it. 10 years later he moved up to 757 CA. If memory serves, most of the ex-Piedmont guys are now F/O's. How many ex-Piedmont guys are still CA's? My dad would have been (hanging on to bottom 737 reserve CA in CLT).
Maybe many of the Piedmont guys did get DOH, but a LARGE NUMBER of them got stapled and bumped a lot of UAir guys up the list, dramatically improving their career expectations. Definitely a windfall. Wasn't fair for the Piedmont guys, and they spent YEARS making sure every UAir guy that came through CLT knew about it.
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