SWA or DAL

[SWA/FO]

I find it funny, that you think you know me. Cus you don't.

GO DAWGS!!!

He is so immature because he had his life handed to him on a silver platter

You seem to think I was in the Military, I was not.

I also find it funny how someone would not factor in the things I listed above when conducting a job search. I just feel that ones job search should be conducted with brains not ego. Y'all fail to see when people jump my $hit from all angles. You only see when I give it back. Well, ladies the beatings will continue for awhile, cus I don't roll over (like some have). Get use to it.

the SWA/FO imp:

 

[capt. megadeth]

I find it funny, that you think you know me. Cus you don't.

Interesting comment......things that make ya go hmmmmm

 

[737 Pylt]

If international flying is so great how come NEW hires are getting it right out of training?

Never said it was great, said it was what I enjoyed!

Not a whole lot to worry about between HOU - DAL.

On the contrary sport, FAA statistics show more violations are handed out on short legs with more cycles than 1 cycle. I'm sure you know that, but are just being.....Well, the swa/fo

But what I never worry about is my next paycheck, if my company IS going to be getting new airplanes, my retirement money or if my company will survive bankruptcy.

Not yet sparky, but just wait. I'm sure you know the saying about "glass houses." Maybe not, living in your trailer in Kansas probably has you "clouded."
As for my retirement....Don't worry about it. My 2% and 9% are doing just fine!

I guess, you Delta folks like the long legs so you can think of all the problems you have on your way to your 28 hour European overnight w/ no money to spend cus your company took it away from you.

No, but it does keep us out of airports like ISP or DAL where you guys taxi at lightning speed! And its pretty funny that you mention that our company took it all. DL is still one of the highest paying legacy carriers out there. Another clueless wonder!

But I guess, since the old lady went back to work maybe you can spend some cash.

GO SIU!!!

the SWA/FO

Better than having your old man going back to work, eh sport?

737

 

[SWA/FO]

Never said it was great, said it was what I enjoyed!

Ok, if people enjoy it so much, why are new hires getting it out of training?

 

[Heavy Set]

Ok, if people enjoy it so much, why are new hires getting it out of training?

Who wants to be junior or on reserve on a piece of equipment that has longer reserve call outs? My buddy over there said they have 8 24 hour call outs for the international guys, and that may be tough for someone who doesn't live close to NYC. If you are a line holder with a schedule, I bet it would be easier. More and more international flying will mean more people bidding over there, but that newhire will be junior and on reserve for years on that plane.

Does that make sense to you? How senior are the LBB trips at SWA? What about CLE? That sounds great. Tulsa in the winter must be fun. Good for you.

 

[SWA/FO]

Does that make sense to you? How senior are the LBB trips at SWA? What about CLE? That sounds great. Tulsa in the winter must be fun. Good for you.

they go very senior... no new hires get them.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

As for my retirement....Don't worry about it. My 2% and 9% are doing just fine!

...DL is still one of the highest paying legacy carriers out there....

737

There will be a higher percentage of pilots flying international at DAL going forward. Why? CRJ-90s and EMB-175/190s doing domestic flying on the expanding regional side. I know I wouldn't want Mesa flying under my airline's banner. What ever happened to the high quality push at Delta?

So yes, newhires will feel the love of NYC reserve with the occassion international trip to enjoy. Pan Am and TWA also had a lot of international they liked to talk about. Maybe a deal with Republic and Mesa will keep your fat out of the fire and keep you from the same fate. Maybe not.

5-6 legs a day at SWA for more than the occasional (junior) trip? General, you are truly smoking crack on this one. Folks have told you it is false, yet you continue to say it. Your reputation is suffering becuase of it.

Bragging about being one of the highest paying Legacies? We are back to Delta of old. Bragging about the Delta lifestyle and pay. We know where that got you guys after 9/11. Good luck with that.

On the plus side--Delta is about to hire a ton of new flight attendants. Anytime an airline starts to hire big you see it. Have fun on those international layovers while the SWA guys are vacationing with the family. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[BVT94]

Who wants to be junior or on reserve on a piece of equipment that has longer reserve call outs? My buddy over there said they have 8 24 hour call outs for the international guys, and that may be tough for someone who doesn't live close to NYC. If you are a line holder with a schedule, I bet it would be easier. More and more international flying will mean more people bidding over there, but that newhire will be junior and on reserve for years on that plane.

Does that make sense to you? How senior are the LBB trips at SWA? What about CLE? That sounds great. Tulsa in the winter must be fun. Good for you.

This post makes no sense to me....

 

[hypersonic]

SWA/FO you make Southwest guys look bad.

He does not! Don't try to get personal with him, he is smarter

 

[FDJ2]

We have a 24 hour layover in NRT (from ATL) which equates to a 28 hour 3 day trip, and the JFK--BOM trip has a 48 hour layover, and the leg from BOM to JFK can be 17 hours nonstop, with two full crews and an upper deck crew rest facility with bunks.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You are of course correct General. There certainly are a variety of layovers, that's why I prefaced my comment with "most". It's a generality, General.

Most of my trips to Sao Paulo, Rio, and Santiago Chile have 36 hour layovers, while most of my London, Munich, Milan etc trips have 24 hour layovers. There are of course exceptions, I just got of a trip with a 13 hour GRU layover and my last Brussels trip had a 48 hour layover.

 

[FDJ2]

I just did 19 hrs in FLL on the beach. Spring break eye candy everywhere!

You ought to try a Rio layover with 36 hours on the beach. Talk about eye candy.

 

[shearedshaft]

that double breasted suite makes some (and I repeat SOME) DAL guys think they are God's gift to flying. They don't walk by...they levitate by.

Well, "suit", anyway. I was always curious to ask the Delta guys, but never go the nerve up until now: Is the stick inserted up your butt on the third day of class, or during your IOE?

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

How long until SWA codeshares with Virgin???

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/artic...03-18_00-01-09_L1610291&type=comktNews&rpc=44

Virgin eyes Europe-U.S. flights under "open skies"

Sat Mar 17, 2007

LONDON, March 18 (Reuters) - Virgin Atlantic [VA.UL] has begun work on an aggressive plan to launch direct U.S. flights from cities across Europe if the European Union backs a landmark plan to liberalise transatlantic air travel this week.

An "open skies" deal outlined by U.S. and EU negotiators this month and hailed as the most important air travel pact in decades goes to EU transport ministers for review on March 22. "Virgin is exploring direct services to America from several European hubs," said a Virgin Atlantic spokesman.

He said a study was under way that could see Virgin add flights to the United States from Paris, Frankfurt, Milan, Zurich, Amsterdam and possibly Madrid within two years, he said. Britain's transport minister has voiced concern about the "open skies" deal citing risks to UK carriers Virgin Atlantic and British Airways.

The deal would open London's Heathrow airport to more airlines, exposing Virgin and BA to more competition at their main airport.
Virgin and BA are two of only four airlines allowed to fly from Heathrow to the United States under a deal signed in 1978.

The "open skies" deal would allow others to use the routes, though they would have to buy or swap scarce landing slots at the busy airport in order to do so.

 

[Big Slick]

Hey SWA/FU,

Who paid for your aviation degree at SIU? Let me guess..... Was it your Daddy who also got you the job at SWA?

No wonder you are so immature. BTW, talking about yourself in the third person is a complete sign of being self centered and immature. As in "the SWA/FU."

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Set
Who wants to be junior or on reserve on a piece of equipment that has longer reserve call outs? My buddy over there said they have 8 24 hour call outs for the international guys, and that may be tough for someone who doesn't live close to NYC. If you are a line holder with a schedule, I bet it would be easier. More and more international flying will mean more people bidding over there, but that newhire will be junior and on reserve for years on that plane.

Does that make sense to you? How senior are the LBB trips at SWA? What about CLE? That sounds great. Tulsa in the winter must be fun. Good for you.

This post makes no sense to me.......

When you get an international plane as a newhire, you may be stuck on reserve...a long time. More senior bubbas on the 738 or MD 88 will start bidding over to the 767ER when they know they can hold a line. I wouldn't be surprised if the domestic fleet actually shrinks and exacerbates this phenomenon.

 

[BVT94]

When you get an international plane as a newhire, you may be stuck on reserve...a long time. More senior bubbas on the 738 or MD 88 will start bidding over to the 767ER when they know they can hold a line. I wouldn't be surprised if the domestic fleet actually shrinks and exacerbates this phenomenon.

I was referring to the Tulsa winter comment. DTW, CLE, yeah...but Tulsa?

 

[737 Pylt]

There will be a higher percentage of pilots flying international at DAL going forward. Why? CRJ-90s and EMB-175/190s doing domestic flying on the expanding regional side. I know I wouldn't want Mesa flying under my airline's banner. What ever happened to the high quality push at Delta?

I don't know either.....It makes me pretty sad we still lower ourselves to lousy service! The high quality went out when the LCC's started dominating with lower fares. You get what you pay for I guess!

So yes, newhires will feel the love of NYC reserve with the occassion international trip to enjoy. Pan Am and TWA also had a lot of international they liked to talk about. Maybe a deal with Republic and Mesa will keep your fat out of the fire and keep you from the same fate. Maybe not.

JFK is a disaster....It needs fixing, and not just from a MESA/ASA standpoint!

5-6 legs a day at SWA for more than the occasional (junior) trip? General, you are truly smoking crack on this one. Folks have told you it is false, yet you continue to say it. Your reputation is suffering becuase of it.

I'm not General, and I never said anything about this.....Who's the one smoking crack?

Bragging about being one of the highest paying Legacies? We are back to Delta of old. Bragging about the Delta lifestyle and pay. We know where that got you guys after 9/11. Good luck with that.

My comment was towards SWA prick who was bragging about his pay and how DL sucks in pay, benefits....Maybe you should direct that comment toward him!?

On the plus side--Delta is about to hire a ton of new flight attendants. Anytime an airline starts to hire big you see it. Have fun on those international layovers while the SWA guys are vacationing with the family. Different strokes for different folks.

My last international layover, I had the wife and kid with me in Europe. Like you say, different strokes for different folks!

When you get an international plane as a newhire, you may be stuck on reserve...a long time. More senior bubbas on the 738 or MD 88 will start bidding over to the 767ER when they know they can hold a line. I wouldn't be surprised if the domestic fleet actually shrinks and exacerbates this phenomenon.

Since you seem to have all the answers, maybe you could apply for a management position....Better yet, let me know what the powerball numbers are going to be this week!

737

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Since you seem to have all the answers, maybe you could apply for a management position....Better yet, let me know what the powerball numbers are going to be this week!

737

You are right. I was responding to more than one person. You and the General. I'm glad you picked up on that.

I'm always working on where I think the industry is headed. A hobby if you will. Am I right (at all)? I am sometimes. I will offer always offer my opinion on what the future holds. I think having an opinion on such things is important for your career. Otherwise, why am I here on flightinfo?

Glad you had a good time with the family. There's room for LCCs, regionals and legacies in the future. It is my opinion that, over time, their position relative to each other will shift.

 

[Whataburger]

I'd choose SWA.

 

[737 Pylt]

You are right. I was responding to more than one person. You and the General. I'm glad you picked up on that.

I'm always working on where I think the industry is headed. A hobby if you will. Am I right (at all)? I am sometimes. I will offer always offer my opinion on what the future holds. I think having an opinion on such things is important for your career. Otherwise, why am I here on flightinfo?

Glad you had a good time with the family. There's room for LCCs, regionals and legacies in the future. It is my opinion that, over time, their position relative to each other will shift.

I agree!:beer:

737