Capi_Cafre'
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Where are the Frontier Pilots?
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Where are the Frontier Pilots?
Quiet... Ashamed? We want to hear your logic on why you voted this in!
Purely incorrect.Just to clarify a couple of points:
With a 900 hour per year guarantee a new Frontier FO will, at 37/hour make 33,300 per year. Thats about 100/week less than an Air Tran new hire, and about 16,000 above the poverty line.
Your new-hires still won't catch up to us until the end of Year 3 if you add both yours and our B-Fund into it.Year two Air Tran pays 56/hr and we pay 64/hr.
Ummm... you lost me on this tangent.And I welcome the non-voting new hires that get to live under the system that has evolved over the last five years to provide one of the best qualities of life in the industry even if some of them feel they are entitled by devine right to it.
I'm sure they will, if given a chance. You'll certainly lose a large number of the applicants with families; they can't afford to live on that 1st year wage, especially if they see all your growth funneled elsewhere thus killing upgrade opportunities.And for those out there who don’t want to come here for the low new hire pay I say don’t come. Take your skills and go elsewhere. If management has a tough enough time finding qualified applicants maybe they’ll raise it again.
Did I miss something in this thread?I just love how some of you guys bragged about coming to DEN and will put F9 out of business and then complain when they settle for a sub standard contract while the vultures are swooping in.
Just remember it's all about you.
Hey F9... Not to bash, but your first year or two at AAI are complete money makers. On reserve you get payed a 70 hour guarantee or 4 hours a day, which ever is better. In other words, if they call you for only 1 four day trip all month, and you average 7 hours of flight time each day, you get payed 3 hours each day over guarantee.. In other words, you just worked 4 days and your getting payed 82 hours. And since AAI works the crap out of their FO's its not uncommon to make over 100 hours of pay a month on reserve (more than you will make as a line holder).. You will make a ton more money at AAI your first year than you will at F9.. More than enough to make up for the chity 2nd year pay.. Plus at year 2 AAI pilots start to get the B fund of 10.5%.. So total compensation for year 2 with 85 hours of pay a month is around $62,000..... 90 hours pay (not uncommon at all) gets you up to almost $67,000 in compensation... Not good, but not horrible in todays times..