ASA Getting 8 CRJ700, and Keeping 8 Additional

[Medeco]

ASA has not caved yet to a request for cheaper rates to hold onto airplanes.

Even though Comair still ahs the current contract, they did vote to take a paycut a week after sending ASA stickers that they supported us in our fight.

I'm not glad anyone is losing airplanes, but Comair did kinda stab us in the back.

Medeco

 

[Rogue5]

No....the 'Good News for ASA' he was referring to was ASA is done being raped of our current fleet of aircraft by scumbag 700/900 flying for 50 seat rates Skywest pilots like you.

I am sure that you must be aware that the "700/900 flyin for 50 seat rates" situation no longer applies. As of Jan 1st 2007 all 50 seat CRJ flying rates will increase 1% and 700/900 flying will receive a 5% override with an additional increase of 1% each year until 2010.

So, a 4th year 50 seat RJ Captain (for example) will get paid:

$61.54 x 1.01 = $62.16

if he/she flies a 700/900 their override will equate to:

$62.16 x 1.05 = $65.26 in 2007.
$62.16 x 1.06 = $65.89 in 2008.
$62.16 x 1.07 = $66.51 in 2009.
$62.16 x 1.08 = $67.13 in 2010.

Again, this is pay for 4th year Captains only, and does not take into account standard year longevity increases around 3% per year.

FWIW, www.airlinepilotcentral.com shows ASA's 4th year 200 Captain rate at $60.00 and a 700 Captain rate at $66.00 (rounded numbers, I'm sure)...

 

[buscap]

Not giddy

I believe I can speak for most ASA pilots. We are not the least bit happy to get airplanes at the expense of Comair. The stoploss of the 700s has been expected, but we have all been cringing at the idea of picking up Comair's ships.

Lets hope for the best for everyone and stand firm when the whipsaw heads our way.

 

[joe_pilot]

It is very clear that most pilot groups will continue to suffer hardships because of SKYW.

What is clear to me is that it is not my pilot group that is causing others to suffer hardship, but rather the union representatives at other regionals. I believe we will probably be an ALPA shop within the next 6-8 months and I can only hope that we pay close attention to those we elect to represent us.

Good Luck, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Happy Yule.

-JP

 

[SSDD]

I believe I can speak for most ASA pilots. We are not the least bit happy to get airplanes at the expense of Comair. The stoploss of the 700s has been expected, but we have all been cringing at the idea of picking up Comair's ships.

Lets hope for the best for everyone and stand firm when the whipsaw heads our way.

And how is that different from Skywest? Do you think a couple of morons like HelloNewman represent the sentiments of the Skywest pilots? NO THEY DON'T! The majority of the Skywest pilots don't want to grow at the expense of ASA or Comair.

Its interesting when a group is losing flying they yell and scream; whores, scabs, etc., but when they gain flying they have to take it back, they hem and haw, ah schucks we don't really want that flying but...you know...somebody has to do it.....Bunch of hypocrites!!!!!!!

They try to justify it with their union talk, but its just rhetoric. Here's a suggestion for the ASA guys...

Why don't you include in your negotiations a clause that says that you will not accept any flying, or airplanes, that is currently being done by another airline?

 

[79%N1]

Yea, as soon as you hand over the 4 700's you took from us already.

 

[buscap]

And how is that different from Skywest? Do you think a couple of morons like HelloNewman represent the sentiments of the Skywest pilots? NO THEY DON'T! The majority of the Skywest pilots don't want to grow at the expense of ASA or Comair.

Its interesting when a group is losing flying they yell and scream; whores, scabs, etc., but when they gain flying they have to take it back, they hem and haw, ah schucks we don't really want that flying but...you know...somebody has to do it.....Bunch of hypocrites!!!!!!!

They try to justify it with their union talk, but its just rhetoric. Here's a suggestion for the ASA guys...

Why don't you include in your negotiations a clause that says that you will not accept any flying, or airplanes, that is currently being done by another airline?

You Shortshafted-idiot size-challenged ,

Did I say anything about Skywest??? Don't be yanking on my post without an actual reference.

We're all doing flying which is argueably someone else's: The Delta pilots in their view.

If you are part of a company which is savvy enough to go out and get some flying, fine by me. But I wouldn't advise taking a paycut or other concessions to secure growth, and I'm not saying you guys did, because that sets you up for a long slide.

We're all trying to make a living, but I do honestly feel bad about what's happening to the Comair guys, just as I did when ACA took that long slow fall. They are Union kin and it just plain sucks. And yes, given the choice I would rather see Union guys do any flying.

And I do not believe the Comair guys are getting what's coming to them because of the concessions for growth thing.

 

[WWEfan]

No....the 'Good News for ASA' he was referring to was ASA is done being raped of our current fleet of aircraft by scumbag 700/900 flying for 50 seat rates Skywest pilots like you. So please allow us to be pleased we are done handing over our fleet to you, and not the Comair flying. Although, we all know you SKYW boys would rejoice in the taking of others flying.

Ummm...although it doesn't show in his profile, Snapperhead is NOT a SKYW pilot. He is one of us working on his 3rd or 4th airline job trying to get back to a major. He knows what this game is all about and he is certainly not happy about it.

Get your facts straight before you start laying down the verbal whippings. You lose credibility otherwise.

 

[WWEfan]

They try to justify it with their union talk, but its just rhetoric. Here's a suggestion for the ASA guys...

Why don't you include in your negotiations a clause that says that you will not accept any flying, or airplanes, that is currently being done by another airline?

What ASA is doing is bargaining for a contract that doesn't sellout its SKYW or Comair brothers and sisters.

You listen to too many flamers on this board. The majority of ASA pilots don't want to grow at anyone else's expense. We are PROVING that by not bending over for growth.

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

I suppose it OK then, that instead of SKYW getting the 12 70s, ASA is getting the CMR planes (plus their own back)--much better that way, keeping the flying in the union family. Maybe now people can start the scumbag ASA pilots posts about their stealing and moving flying from a union carrier...