ASA Getting 8 CRJ700, and Keeping 8 Additional

[ASADFW7]

Well, ASA did not bid to undercut Comair wages to get these aircraft. The pilot group had zero involvement in this transfer of aircraft.

 

[Morning Wood]

so how is this different than Gojet? seems the same to me....and no i dont work there.....its just an observation

its seems everyone is eager to stick it to everyone else.......and then call names and assign fake blame....it seems standard in the regionals....I dont see any pilot group more guilty or innocent than another....and no im not bashing ASA.....but it seems that SKW can be awarded ALL the flying in the US , yet not get the same rap as Gojet...at least Gojet has a union now....do these guys as SKYW want it all?

Why do you guys think the pilots alone decide what code shares regionals get and what airplanes they're going to fly? Management negotiates and decides this stuff. Not pilots, not mechanics, not flight attendants, not rampers. Why is that so hard to understand? Everyone in the company is at the mercy of the decisions that are made by executives, whose job it is to do make those decisions. Your job is to fly an airplane from A to B, not buy airplanes or negotiate code shares.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Just imagine if management put as much effort into running a good company as they do into transferring airplanes, RFP's, and slashing pilot wages. Management is positively the worst thing to happen to aviation.

 

[Nightrain_080]

type rated without a job........too bad

You're right, what was I thinking??

I'm sure glad Pan Am is hiring! Can't wait to get that 707 FE seat so I can stroll through the terminal with 3 "stews" like Leo DiCockreo.

Maybe if I close my eyes and wish hard enough, it might be 1967 again.

Now click your heels together 3 times and say "There's no place like pre deregulation legacy carriers, there's no place like pre deregulation legacy carriers, there's no place like pre deregulation legacy carriers....."

You and your 737 type rating are the only ones clicking heels, wishing you were flying for Walmart. Maybe next round of interviews they will take you, then again maybe not. LOL have fun with your type rating applying elsewhere.

 

[Hootie9750]

ASA pilots deserve nothing. It's hilarious how it is NOT okay for ASA to have there flying "stolen" but it IS OKAY for them to "steal" some flying. Hypocrites...I wish Mesa owned you.

 

[FightingIrish]

The CMR guys didn't care about how their concessions would affect our negotiations at ASA, so why should we care if we get some of their 70s? Sorry, but I am happy about the growth. I still remember the CMR sticker we got just before they stabbed us in the back.

 

[Smarta$$]

I suppose it OK then, that instead of SKYW getting the 12 70s, ASA is getting the CMR planes (plus their own back)--much better that way, keeping the flying in the union family. Maybe now people can start the scumbag ASA pilots posts about their stealing and moving flying from a union carrier...

NO, the only peeps saying scumbag ASA will be skywest drivers.

 

[Smarta$$]

ASA pilots deserve nothing. It's hilarious how it is NOT okay for ASA to have there flying "stolen" but it IS OKAY for them to "steal" some flying. Hypocrites...I wish Mesa owned you.


On another note this will make more sense in the overall scheme of things to everyone once they read a certain press release.

When sill this press release be? I hope it is not what I think it is. This is such BS. If you guys had industry average 70-90 seat pay you would not be getting this flying. Management is giving you guys this flying because of low 76 seat pay and no union. It is a reward for being easily bent over.

 

[RollinOnMy22sYo]

You and your 737 type rating are the only ones clicking heels, wishing you were flying for Walmart. Maybe next round of interviews they will take you, then again maybe not. LOL have fun with your type rating applying elsewhere.

Yo, now dat's sum funny shinizit.

Get a clue Nightbrain, he's been on property at SWA for over a year.

Sounds like you're the one who might be "waiting for the next round" A bit bitter are we?

 

[SkyNation]

Why do you guys think the pilots alone decide what code shares regionals get and what airplanes they're going to fly? Management negotiates and decides this stuff. Not pilots, not mechanics, not flight attendants, not rampers. Why is that so hard to understand?

because all of the morons the cry and moan on this board are operating with a 3rd grade level of understanding when it comes to competition, the free market, and the future of the industry.

on another note, look for SkyWest to add a 4th partner is 2007. You heard it here first.

 

[Tomct]

ASA pilots deserve nothing. It's hilarious how it is NOT okay for ASA to have there flying "stolen" but it IS OKAY for them to "steal" some flying. Hypocrites...I wish Mesa owned you.

Poopie, crawl back into your hole. Just because you don't understand what is going on here in the 121 world....like was said earlier, we DID NOT undercut ANYONE for the flying! Shut your pie hole eh!

 

[CF34-3B1]

You and your 737 type rating are the only ones clicking heels, wishing you were flying for Walmart. Maybe next round of interviews they will take you, then again maybe not. LOL have fun with your type rating applying elsewhere.

type rated without a job?

Not sure where you got that one. I have a job I LUV, thanks.

Flying for WalMart? Nahh, never wanted to fly corporate, although if I happened to live in NW Arkansas, I guess I could think of worse things to do. (But personally I think I'd prefer flying Tyson's Global Express)

And I did have fun interviewing elsewhere with the 737 type. Was offered a job flying heavies, which I politely turned down when SWA called shortly thereafter.

 

[CF34-3B1]

Yo, now dat's sum funny shinizit.

Get a clue Nightbrain, he's been on property at SWA for over a year.

Sounds like you're the one who might be "waiting for the next round" A bit bitter are we?

Rollin my bruthah, what's up!?

How's life in the A-T-L?

 

[ASARJMan]

Let me guess since ASA got the comair flying its ok because ASA is Alpa?

If I were skywest pilots I would be pretty angry and Jerry because of this. Especially because they were promised more growth and ASA had done nothing but spit in Skywests Face.

Hey superpoop, you still have the balls to post on here after your LJ victory prediction? Oh where's the $10 bucks you owe me for her losing? You loser. Daddy got you on at CAL, now go play with yourself willya loser!

Owed $10 By SuperPooper for Losing A Bet! hahaha

 

[ASARJMan]

Additional 700s and progress on the contract! 2007 may be a good year for ASA! This is good to see.

Another LJ backer comes outa hiding! I knew you turds would lick your wounds and be back! So care to comment on your "victory" prediction for LJ's coalition loser?

Voted For The Right People To Lead The ASA Pilots!

 

[ASARJMan]

The CMR guys didn't care about how their concessions would affect our negotiations at ASA, so why should we care if we get some of their 70s? Sorry, but I am happy about the growth. I still remember the CMR sticker we got just before they stabbed us in the back.

Happy? Man you are a complete idiot. But then, it's all about YOU isn't it?

Did NOT Vote for The LJ Coalition!
But Irish stated she would win, and she didn't!

 

[sweptback]

Well, ASA did not bid to undercut Comair wages to get these aircraft. The pilot group had zero involvement in this transfer of aircraft.

Not only that, but I stood in the crew lounge and personally listened to Jerry Atkin state that ASA did not bid on any 70 or 76-seat aircraft on the DAL RFP.

I have said this on other threads, but again, these aircraft were transferred to fulfill contractual obligations of growth related to the ASA sale. This was stated in bankruptcy court. I believe that SkyWest, Inc. must receive 40% of all future DCI growth until a certain year. With the recent growth at Freedom and Shuttle America, SkyWest is way behind in the percentages.

I am not happy that the aircraft are coming here (just as the SkyWest pilots I'm sure were not happy they were receiving -EV registered aircraft), but there is nothing in any of the pilot groups' CBAs that prevents these aircraft from being transferred.

 

[bvt1151]

Comair's pay rates will be based in-part on ASA's current pay rates which are based on years of not being able to negotiate a thing. Comair will now go on strike twice while ASA has yet to even negotiate one.

Thanks for the help.

 

[sweptback]

Comair's pay rates will be based in-part on ASA's current pay rates which are based on years of not being able to negotiate a thing. Comair will now go on strike twice while ASA has yet to even negotiate one.

Thanks for the help.

ASA's 70-seat payrates were ratified as LOA 29 on 2/2002.

http://www.asacontract.com/pa/contract/loa29.html

 

[~~~^~~~]

BVT - you are out of line. Comair has undercut ASA twice during negotiations. ASA has not gone out on strike because we have not been released by the National Mediation Board. We have authorized a strike and will strike when released if an agreement is not reached in the interim.

ASA's MEC has resolved not to engage in the practice of concessionary bidding for growth, has yours?

I do regret that ASA is getting your airplanes - but the quickest way to destroy what remains of our loyalty for our Comair brothers is to go on a blind attack against one of the very few pilot groups that has stood beside yours in your effort to make this job a career.