"..With You.."

[semperfido]

i like "can we get something downrange?" --this flyin thing is humorous aint it

 

[barnyard]

I promise I will now say 'With You' with every controller I ever talk to the rest of my life-clearance, ground, FSS, Even OPS--- til all you miserable bastards get so fed up with 'punks' like me and retire- or even better, commit suicide.

Get a friggin life.

 

[MickeySlapnutz]

So you're telling me that all of these CHQ/Comair/ASA/Colgan/Hell even Our F/Os are ex-fighter jocks?! Wow! I am way underqualified!!

No. Those are the guys who are saying "On the hold" cause they think it sounds like big jet talk."On the hold" makes no sense at all. "On to hold" works overseas as well when you are told to "Line up and wait".

 

[AA717driver]

Aviation hasn't been worth a $h!t since they renamed the taxiways at ORD!

"Outer, bridge, wedge, cargo, See Ya!" TC

 

[FN FAL]

The other morning I had a controller ask me "What is your ride like". I was tempted to say "its a 1999 Oldsmobile....... how about yours". But I didn't.

Instead I exercised restraint and correctly said "Well.....the seat belt sign is off".

Was that proper AIM verbage?

How about?

"Iron Lung 3434, say speed?"

"Speed!"

 

[FN FAL]

Rodger was in a class all by himself, I know of atleast ten people who tried to get the last word in and never could...Jobear

Yea, he was always nice to have on the radio. I made it to his home town once while flying a charter into Emmetts (sp?) burg Iowa. The airport cronies took me out for breakfast and made sure I wasn't lonely waiting all by myself at the field all day.

 

[SWAnnabee]

Ashamed of my roots

Fly Chick,
You need to lighten up and stop taking yourself so seriously. And laughing at a student is not what I would consider to be very professional behavior on your part. -------------Edited due to not having my morning coffee yet and a bad nights sleep. Please relax a bit, though. It makes all us Riddle folks look uptight.---------------

 

[mdf]

How can you have 21,000 hours, and make a post like this? Check pilot to the world I guess. You would think after that much experience you would have made enough mistakes to have at least a little humility. Do me a favor, and remember this post next time you drop one in from 50 feet.

 

[Publishers]

How about we just forget saying "hello, how are you?" and things like Goodbye as we are not there anymore it should be obvious.,

 

[radarlove]

Why do we check in with Center by saying their name? I mean, Center knows who they are and half the time we're wrong anyway.

I check in with my call sign and altitude. That's it.

Oh, and ALWAYS use the runway numbers when replying to any ground clearance. A good friend was killed when he said, "On the right side", instead of using the proper runway name.

 

[AAflyer]

How about a little shift to all the professional comments from the controllers.

This is my favorite.

Calling Memphis Center Kansas City Center by accident.

The response.

This ain't Kansas City, This IS MEMPHIS.......Home of the KIIINNNGGGGGGG!!

AA

 

[zbwmy]

You guys are harsh. He probably could have started out with a IMHO, but the base message about proper phraseology is a valid point. Just look at how many people have responded with examples already. I agree that it makes for a nice day to be able to use other than standard phraseology to get our intentions known, but when the fur starts to fly, when everyone wants to deviate, when there is a stuck mic with twenty two of you on my freq. and we are sequencing for ATL, IAD, JFK, and EWR in the same sector, are we all going to rememeber to revert back to standard phraseology until we are out of the shi##er?

If I spun my chair around at the Center and said "you know guys, contact Boston Center on one three five testicle seven is not in the 7110.65 my fellow controllers would shred me in two seconds also.

BTW - mine.........November one two three sugar mike

Ethyl33 leaving nine for ten looking for higher

 

[MooseBoy]

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My only pet peeve is "On the hold." I don't even know what that means. I know it loosely translates to "position and hold," but its just a jumble of words. Just say, "position and hold."
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I thought that the "on to hold" (not "on the hold") was weird too until I went to AF pilot training. That was only correct way to respond to a "taxi into position and hold" clearance in the T-37. I don't know where it came from originally, but my guess is that it has been spread throughout the civilian industry by the AF. The AF is where they learned to fly and that's how they learned.

The thing that ticks me off the most is when people use the word "Sugar" instead of "Sierra" for the S in their callsign. Talk about queer.

I'm with you dude. I was perplexed in T-37's when I would reply to ATC with "position and hold" only to be ridiculed by some oblivious IP for not responding with "on to hold." I can't stand that phrase and never use it. It can only lead to confusion when flying with crews of different backgrounds.

 

[radarlove]

Hey zbwmy here's a Center question for you: a while back I read that you guys disliked SWA's "slow descents" and I didn't know what it meant, but later on freq I started to hear odd clearances, like SWA001 increase your rate of descent or SWA001 at least 1500 feet per minute.

What's that all about? Is SWA weird compared to other airlines?

 

[CapnVegetto]

Anyone else notice how Captain 7, FlyChick and the other douchebags have no response anymore?

 

[Doug Parker]

Maybe Captain 7 and Fly Hag are one person............................

 

[Boeingman]

Anyone else notice how Captain 7, FlyChick and the other douchebags have no response anymore?

Because school doesn't let out this early in the morning.

 

[Captain4242]

I'd like to know why Captain7 listed his gripe under "Majors".
I guess it's OK for me as a Lear guy to tell ATC that I'm with them?
What's the big deal with what is said, so long as it is correct, lucid, and somewhat polite?

 

[AA717driver]

I'd like to know why Captain7 listed his gripe under "Majors".
I guess it's OK for me as a Lear guy to tell ATC that I'm with them?

That's because everyone knows corporate pilots are undisciplined, non-standard cowboys... TC

 

[Captain4242]

Yeah, but we also have job security.
Check-mate.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Is SWA weird compared to other airlines?

Yeah. They make money.

 

[N1kawotg]

"Hey zbwmy here's a Center question for you: a while back I read that you guys disliked SWA's "slow descents" and I didn't know what it meant, but later on freq I started to hear odd clearances, like SWA001 increase your rate of descent or SWA001 at least 1500 feet per minute.

What's that all about? Is SWA weird compared to other airlines?"
by Radarlove


We're trying to save gas. If we get a pilot discrection when already in a decent, we usually fly 1000 feet per minute til our top of decent. Instead of scream down and burn more lower. We're just staying higher as long as we can or as long as center can take it.


To go along with this thread, only in humor. My only pet peeve is when center calls out traffic and the response is "got'em on the fishfinder". This is from a guy that wishes he was on ESPN on Sunday's trying to catch the largest mouth
bass to win angler of the year.

 

[FN FAL]

Hey zbwmy here's a Center question for you: a while back I read that you guys disliked SWA's "slow descents" and I didn't know what it meant, but later on freq I started to hear odd clearances, like SWA001 increase your rate of descent or SWA001 at least 1500 feet per minute.

What's that all about? Is SWA weird compared to other airlines?

They are not weird...that's just what happens when you accept CE-208 Turbine PIC time in your hiring mins.

 

[Captain 7]

No response? Because there is no need for any response or arguement. It is a fact that it is a redundant and silly phrase and nothing to debate about. Besides, the mission has been accomplished: I got you guys thinking about it, you'll mention it in passing to your cockpit crewmember when you hear it on the radio, you'll start feeling silly every time you say "with you" and eventually your fellow pilots won't have to hear the useless phrase quite as often.

 

[zbwmy]

"Hey zbwmy here's a Center question for you: a while back I read that you guys disliked SWA's "slow descents" and I didn't know what it meant, but later on freq I started to hear odd clearances, like SWA001 increase your rate of descent or SWA001 at least 1500 feet per minute.

What's that all about? Is SWA weird compared to other airlines?"
by Radarlove


We're trying to save gas. If we get a pilot discrection when already in a decent, we usually fly 1000 feet per minute til our top of decent. Instead of scream down and burn more lower. We're just staying higher as long as we can or as long as center can take it.


To go along with this thread, only in humor. My only pet peeve is when center calls out traffic and the response is "got'em on the fishfinder". This is from a guy that wishes he was on ESPN on Sunday's trying to catch the largest mouth
bass to win angler of the year.

I have not noticed the slow decent by SWA. SWA climbs out like a raped ape for us and we love that.

 

[CapnVegetto]

No response? Because there is no need for any response or arguement. It is a fact that it is a redundant and silly phrase and nothing to debate about. Besides, the mission has been accomplished: I got you guys thinking about it, you'll mention it in passing to your cockpit crewmember when you hear it on the radio, you'll start feeling silly every time you say "with you" and eventually your fellow pilots won't have to hear the useless phrase quite as often.

Actually, I'm going to say it every single time I check on now, specifically, just to pi$$ you off.

Go get laid man, or something. Better yet, head down to the Dollar General and buy yourself a life.

 

[Boeingman]

Actually, I'm going to say it every single time I check on now, specifically, just to pi$$ you off.

.

The problem is that you might not get into the ERAU practice areas or DAB traffic pattern that often. Otherwise he'll never hear you.

 

[CapnVegetto]

The problem is that you might not get into the ERAU practice areas or DAB traffic pattern that often. Otherwise he'll never hear you.

Haaah!! Good point!!!

 

[Captain 7]

Actually, I'm going to say it every single time I check on now, specifically, just to pi$$ you off.

Won't matter as I'm fairly sure you were saying it anyway - that's why this thread aggravates you. It doesn't really pi$$ me off - I just always wondered why people bothered with it and find it humorous they bother with such a useless phrase and waste of airtime.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Won't matter as I'm fairly sure you were saying it anyway - that's why this thread aggravates you. It doesn't really pi$$ me off - I just always wondered why people bothered with it and find it humorous they bother with such a useless phrase and waste of airtime.

OK, I just noticed your join date and posts, apparently I took the bait again!!! Dammit.