Wheels up

[pilotyip]

That was my point.

They will populate the pilot ranks with whatever they are willing to invest the money for.

If they feel they can operate with inexperienced "time builders" then a sub-par pay structure is what they will offer.

I remember NJ back in the late 90's 2500 TT and you got a job flying as F/o
for 30K a year. I know a guy got hired there with less than 1000 fixed wing time.

 

[BlueNose]

I remember NJ back in the late 90's 2500 TT and you got a job flying as F/o
for 30K a year. I know a guy got hired there with less than 1000 fixed wing time.

I remember speaking with a NetJets recruiter in 98. It was pay for train (pay for the interview sim, too, if I remember correctly), captains made something like 50K a year. I laughed at him and walked away. Thought that was a great decision until '07, then I had to second guess myself. But who could know? I wonder how many NJ guys on here so indignant about others dragging down the profession took the job under those late 90's terms?

 

[johnsonrod]

How many former Avantair pilots hired so far?

What's the latest news? Are there specific bases already set-up in the Northeast (TEB or BED)?

 

[CUBMAN]

Any info on where to send stuff for wheels up?

 

[AeroBoy]

Any info on where to send stuff for wheels up?

Gama Charters (former Flight Services Group)

 

[Newkem]

Here you go

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...eels-taps-gama-charter-operate-king-air-fleet

 

[VA AV8R]

Does anyone have any interview info, or further company info they can contribute?

 

[dicko]

Quick question for the corporate and fractional pilots - Wheels Up membership and annual dues are $ 23K for the first year, followed by an hourly rate of $ 3950.0 per hour. It seems a little expensive to my uneducated eye.

If one were to charter a King Air 350 at a good quality operation, how much would it cost per hour ? Any comments as to why Kenny thinks he can charge a large premium, if that is the case ?

 

[C680]

Quick question for the corporate and fractional pilots - Wheels Up membership and annual dues are $ 23K for the first year, followed by an hourly rate of $ 3950.0 per hour. It seems a little expensive to my uneducated eye.

If one were to charter a King Air 350 at a good quality operation, how much would it cost per hour ? Any comments as to why Kenny thinks he can charge a large premium, if that is the case ?

They should have called this company Penguin or Kiwi. Flightless bird aviation - who is going to pay this much for a kingair? I don't care how many letters after the numbers, it's still a Kingair with no lavatory and internal baggage.

I don't get it either.

 

[BlueNose]

They should have called this company Penguin or Kiwi. Flightless bird aviation - who is going to pay this much for a kingair? I don't care how many letters after the numbers, it's still a Kingair with no lavatory and internal baggage.

I don't get it either.

Um, the 350i has 55 cu ft of interior, accessible baggage space (+ wing lockers) and a separate flushable lav with sink. And it'll haul 8 pax and bags with a full load of gas. The hauling capacity beats most super-mid bizjets, if that's what you're looking for.

http://www.beechcraft.com/beechcraft/king_air_350i/assets/documents/Beech_350i_Brochure.pdf


Yes, it's still a turboprop, so it has the image issue to overcome. But for short regional ops it's as quick as a jet and can get in and out of more places. I have no idea about Wheels up's pricing compared to the charter market. Looks like he's trying to offer a frax-like product, and attach a frax-like premium. I think it's a niche market and don't know if it will support a company, but the 350's a capable bird for the right profile.

 

[johnsonrod]

Um, the 350i has 55 cu ft of interior, accessible baggage space (+ wing lockers) and a separate flushable lav with sink. And it'll haul 8 pax and bags with a full load of gas. The hauling capacity beats most super-mid bizjets, if that's what you're looking for.

http://www.beechcraft.com/beechcraft/king_air_350i/assets/documents/Beech_350i_Brochure.pdf


Yes, it's still a turboprop, so it has the image issue to overcome. But for short regional ops it's as quick as a jet and can get in and out of more places. I have no idea about Wheels up's pricing compared to the charter market. Looks like he's trying to offer a frax-like product, and attach a frax-like premium. I think it's a niche market and don't know if it will support a company, but the 350's a capable bird for the right profile.

Is the ProLine 21 fully integrated on the KA350i? I don't believe it has autothrottles, etc. How integrated is it?

 

[wingnutt]

autothrottles...pffft, thats what the SIC will be for, cause theres nothing else for them to do in a single-pilot airplane

 

[Safetycheck]

They should have called this company Penguin or Kiwi. Flightless bird aviation - who is going to pay this much for a kingair? I don't care how many letters after the numbers, it's still a Kingair with no lavatory and internal baggage.

I don't get it either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PuiEGFZJiE

:laugh:

 

[FLYLOW22]

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...eels-taps-gama-charter-operate-king-air-fleet

The article was great... except for the name drop in the last sentence.

 

[BentOver]

nearly $4,000/hr on a King Air??

They also teamed up with JetSuite... A LAX-SEA flight on a 4 passenger Phenom 100 will run over $12,000 one way.....

I just don't see it..

Dichter, to me, is a glorified used car salesman ( a very good one) who has the right connections that are willing to hand him millions for any scheme he wishes..