Bushhatesyou said:
yeah 'cause 9E has always been the most reputable place to work. You guys got all your CRJ's because of your stellar operations.
Oh no doubt... our management can't staff and operate an airline to save their life. Doesn't change what G0 Jets pilots are doing.
I hear you talking, but one question...... Was not Express ticket bought and 9E started to whipsaw XJ. Not to mention what 9E has done to NWA and its wages? You and I are part of the same problem. We all are at the regional level.
Yes it was. One major difference - 9E wasn't purchased to operate as a Mesaba alter-ego and take aircraft deliveries and flights that Mesaba already had been awarded, and Mesaba wasn't shrunk as 9E grew. That's the major difference. NWA's wages won't hinge on us at all - the BR judge in the 1113(c) filing won't be comparing them to us, they'll be comparing them to other legacy carriers.
I agree though, our salaries and people who accept them ARE part of the problem, just in a different way than you mean - G0 Jets is part of the same problem in the same vein; they are willing to undercut another pilot group for a job.
If you guys at 9E had not bent over and took it from NWA, you'd still be flying J31's and "pink" Saabs. You guys took crap pay, screwed your FO's and gave XJ a bunch of hand me down Saabs. (Including one that rolled into a ditch.)
You say your a Capt. at 9E? So I would be willing to bet that you came on when 9E was making you pay for the honor of working for them... I guess that's makes you way above the ************************* guy...
Actually... I wasn't here during the last contract negotiations, so I can't speak to what happened then.
To answer your last question, no, I wasn't one of the PFT people. I was a street Captain who was paid during training. Look at my sig on the left, I came up flight instructing then flying King Airs, Lears, then the 727 before here. Yes, I worked my butt off to get here. No, I didn't sh*t on anyone else on the way. Yes, that makes me above any G0 Jets pilot. Clear?
O.K. "Richard" ... Your crusade will last about 6 months or so until a new arch enemy of the regional airline profession is crowned. Do whatever you like if it makes you feel important. If you spend the time it takes to keep these lists with you I'm sure you have no other more important issues to occupy your mind.
Took about 5 minutes to put these lists combined in my PDA. When the next "arch-enemy" is crowned, they'll get added too. Doesn't make me feel important, makes me feel like I'm upholding the ETHICAL and MORAL standards this profession is SUPPOSED to be committed to.
And I'm not in any big minority. When I flew 121 and commuted I hardly ever ran in to any jumpseat Nazi captains like yourself. My guess is that the GJ pilots make it to work just fine. Just to prove my point can I ask how many GJ pilots you have personally refused a jumpseat to ??? My bet is ZERO. If so, you're just full of it aren't you... So keep taking the high road Capt...
Jumpseat Nazi? Sure. What you said. My jumpseat is ALWAYS open to professionals who have earned the privilege... remember that one? "Jumpseating is a PRIVILEGE"...? How many GJ pilots have I refused a seat to? One. Three weeks ago. Pretty pissed off guy... too bad.
On a sidenote, the day may come when you will need a ride and a *************************s flight is the only way to work or home. You had better hope that they don't treat you as you would treat them.
It might... and I will simply find a hotel room rather than ask for the jumpseat. Luckily, neither G0 Jets nor Freedom / Mesa goes anywhere I need to go 99.9% of the time.
If I were you I'd be more concerned with how your friends at NWA, i.e Steenland, is srewing you with the upcoming furloughs. Or perhaps staying off of Terry Meffords radar screen.
I file too many grievances to stay off TM's radar for very long.
As far as being concerned about how NWA is going to screw us or, as you mentioned later in your post, directing my energy to thwart management, I have a news flash for you. There's nothing I can do except back my MEC and contract negotiator's 110% when they are battling the company. Being familiar with the RLA you should know that.
Working in this industry is difficult enough without you and your compatriots at TSA adding to the misery.
Go ahead deny some poor smuck your jumpseat that just needs a job to feed his family and is trying to get home to spend the little time he has off with them.
If that really makes you feel good.
Home Depot pays better than years 1-3 F/O - they can feed their family from there and wait for a job that doesn't SCREW OTHER PEOPLE to come available. It doesn't make me "feel good", but I have no sympathy for them either.
The guys that went to work there are not scabs! There is no strike! They did not cross any picket line! And most importantly, they did not take anyone's job!
I didn't say they WERE Scabs. I said they were one SMALL step above Scabs, and I will treat them as such. As for taking someone's job... how long do you think it will be until TSA starts shrinking TSA while growing G0 Jets if the TSA pilots don't cave? If the TSA pilots hold their ground, how much fear do you think management has of them walking when G0 Jets is there to immediately take up the slack?
That's what I thought.
Unlike the scab mechanics at NWA! Do you let those scabs non-rev on your flights ?!?!?!?! I bet they're on your plane more often then you know.
Possibly, and I'd LOVE to be able to do that, but I have no control over who's in the back. Bad comparison... but you get an A for effort.
Has the practice of refusing jumpseats because of labor issues not been going on before regional jets, regional pilots, or even having an airline pilot under the age of 30 even existed? This isn't exactly a new thing, chief. Its been going on for many years.
BINGO!
