What's the problem with GJ?!?!

[flyin4pennies]

I read that GJ pilots are only being paid 25 cents more an hour then their conterparts at TSA flying 50 seaters.


eg. 1st year capt. E145 TSA $53.00
1st year capt. CRJ 700 GJ $53.25
1st year capt. CRJ 700 Comair $66.00
1st year capt. CRJ 700 Horizon $68.00

You get the point

 

[poydras]

USAC1,
you pityful jerk from *************************s.You must be one of those that can even hold the head up in STL while walking around, hiding the GJ badge.
Keep hiding it it' s better for you.

Jumpseat???That is a dream for you my bubba.......
Moron. That all you deserve.

By the way go to www.loser.com you' ll find the top 30' s are GJ pilots

 

[h25b]

USAC1,
you pityful jerk from *************************s.You must be one of those that can even hold the head up in STL while walking around, hiding the GJ badge.
Keep hiding it it' s better for you.

Jumpseat???That is a dream for you my bubba.......
Moron. That all you deserve.

By the way go to www.loser.com you' ll find the top 30' s are GJ pilots

Maybe you're the one that will finally tell us all the exact portion of the TSA CBA that prohibits GJ operations ???

 

[210FR8DOG]

here.........

h25b- that info. has been posted on here by myself and several others a long time ago. YOU ARE RIGHT. It does say Trans States Airlines, Inc. Which I along with many others here thought was the company we worked for. I had no idea there was a f'n Trans States Holdings. They don't tell you that sort of thing in the interview.

That still does not change the fact that even though it may be legal, Hojets is still morally wrong and a b!tchslap in the face of every Trans States pilot. I was raised by my parents in the old school fashion of rewarding those who make you money. Not circumventing an agreement using the help of a bunch of low life scum to stick it in your backside just to save a few bucks. This is the most disgusting excuse of an operation I have been a part of in my entire working life.

 

[h25b]

h25b- that info. has been posted on here by myself and several others a long time ago. YOU ARE RIGHT. It does say Trans States Airlines, Inc. Which I along with many others here thought was the company we worked for. I had no idea there was a f'n Trans States Holdings. They don't tell you that sort of thing in the interview.

That still does not change the fact that even though it may be legal, Hojets is still morally wrong and a b!tchslap in the face of every Trans States pilot. I was raised by my parents in the old school fashion of rewarding those who make you money. Not circumventing an agreement using the help of a bunch of low life scum to stick it in your backside just to save a few bucks. This is the most disgusting excuse of an operation I have been a part of in my entire working life.

We're both right... It's an insult, I just don't agree with trying to make another pilot's life miserable unless they are actually scabbing or doing something in direct violation of your CBA. There's enough misery in this profession to go around already. Bottom line, get your next contract and try to scope GJ out of existence.

 

[flyer172r]

Bottom line, get your next contract and try to scope GJ out of existence.

And we'll have to give up a whole lot in pay increases and work rule improvements that everyone will call us true bottom-feeders right up there with CHQ and Mesa.

 

[h25b]

And we'll have to give up a whole lot in pay increases and work rule improvements that everyone will call us true bottom-feeders right up there with CHQ and Mesa.

Well, I guess now you know how the guys/gals at CHQ felt while they were negotiating their last contract with the threats of an alter-ego whipsawing them. You don't think your the first airline to suffer through this do you ??? You don't truely understand until you've "walked a mile in their shoes" do you ? You'd assume go on calling them "bottom-feeders"... Sucks doesn't it ???

 

[StarChecker]

Well, I guess now you know how the guys/gals at CHQ felt while they were negotiating their last contract with the threats of an alter-ego whipsawing them. You don't think your the first airline to suffer through this do you ??? You don't truely understand until you've "walked a mile in their shoes" do you ? You'd assume go on calling them "bottom-feeders"... Sucks doesn't it ???

Exactly...the scope clause we fought for that prevented what the TSA guys are going through came with a cost. Otherwise...the Republic/Shuttle certificates would be flown by guys not operating under our CBA and not on our seniority list.

Of couse, our management "team" just puts people on our seniority list whenever it suits them.

 

[theo]

Doesn't matter how much you get paid. TSA scope intends that all of Hulas' flying is done by pilots on the TSA seniority list.

Thats why most of us wouldn't P I S S on you if you were on fire.

If you were right then ALPA wins the court battle. My understanding is they don't believe they will win such a hearing. Have you heard otherwise?

 

[flyin4pennies]

What go's around comes around!!!

Management teams who pull this S**t now will see repercussions later. The "Good Faith" negotiations go out the window when management uses these tactic to get what they want. They create bad blood and when they really do need the concessions to stay afloat the pilot group won't budge.

"DON'T EVER BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU". And for what a couple of bucks?

The fact of the matter is that the only reason that GJets was formed in the first place was to skirt around American's Scope clause. Back door tactic by another management team. Soon, all airlines will have well defined Scope Clauses so managements can't pull stunts like this again!!!

 

[KingKong2]

1st year capt. CRJ 700 GJ $53.25


You get the point

The company offered (not negotiated) 1st year rate is $56. Don't post stuff that is not true.

THIS SITE IS NOTING BUT RUMORS AND LIES!!!!

flyin4pennies post only facts not rumors.

MESA 1st year $55
CHQ $56
Skywest $56

 

[BoilerUP]

So whats the rest of the company-offered (not negotiated) payscale then?

 

[flyin4pennies]

OK KING KONG

How is it that GJ pilots are the 2nd highest paid @ $56. when Horizon is $68 and Comair is $66?
I got my #s for GJ from a TSA pilot. I didn't pull the # out my ars. It dosen't matter who makes what he fact remains ITS WRONG

YOUR WORSE THEN MANAGEMENT, YOU STAB YOUR BROTHER IN THE BACK

RUMORS + LIES = it's OK to work 4 GJets
FACT = SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB

 

[h25b]

FACT = SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB SCAB

Um, your math is a little off there junior... GJ pilots are NOT scabs. Please check your math before posting...

 

[Tarzan]

h25b, why do you keep defending these guys?