What's 357 Done For You Lately?

[sshrae]

Yeah, and in 2003 BB said if we didn't accept a pay cut we would lose the United contract thus cutting our pilot force in half.......I seem to remember doubling our workforce, gaining 170's for United and Delta.

Wake up, southwest didn't want F9 or they would have out bid us in a second. They wanted to look at the books to see how well F9 was really doing.

Regardless, rah won the bid. It was a lose lose for frontier.

 

[j41]

F9 20 F/O position

Does anyone know how many REH, Midwest pilots got hire for the 20 F/O positions ?? what about the Lynx guys, did anyone applied and was called???

 

[ChinaClipper]

Repeat after me, pre-F9 RAH FFD Business Plan...."melting ice cube".......allllllll together now, "...melting ice cube..." now in Chinese......mungo, mooonguy, mooongoo, moguy moongoo....NEIHOWMAH! BTW Indy Proverb 1:1, Never mix Business and religious beliefs........

 

[F9 A319]

SWA would have had to almost double their offer to match RAH as RAH's bid took their $150MM claim off the table.

Wilson did the polling of F9 pilots. Wilson had done some work for the IBT in the past, so they had a conflict of interest in polling the RAH pilots.

The second best polling company was selected to poll the RAH pilots. One that is located in a foreign country - Canada. The IBT represents workers in Canada and they are part of NAFTA, so it's not like it was out sourced to a country that paid 3 cents a call for every call the child work force placed.

 

[Vegaspilot99]

Does anyone know how many REH, Midwest pilots got hire for the 20 F/O positions ?? what about the Lynx guys, did anyone applied and was called???

As far as I know, the furloughed Lynx guys never got a memo on how to apply. I know a few of us definitely wanted to. I updated my airlineapps.com app for F9, but I don't think that was where they pulled from. Never heard anything.

 

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I heard 8 RAH and 8 YX

 

[Popeye0537]

Repeat after me, pre-F9 RAH FFD Business Plan...."melting ice cube".......allllllll together now, "...melting ice cube..." now in Chinese......mungo, mooonguy, mooongoo, moguy moongoo....NEIHOWMAH! BTW Indy Proverb 1:1, Never mix Business and religious beliefs........

Read my lips, POST F9 buyout....NEW DELTA FLYING, Compass would have been purchased if not for F9 purchase, UNITED- passed on flying not enough airframes.

Never mix booze with posts.

 

[trainer8]

You are making a big deal out of nothing. It's a phone number for crying out loud! Who cares where they got it. It is just a poll. It you don't want to take it, say 'no thank you' or don't answer. You are being a Drama Queen.

According to F9 A319, it was more than a phone number. He has the info, ask him.

TSA cares where they got it. FBI cares. It's how you obtain the info and what you do with it.

Ask the three AWA pilots placed on admin leave and why LCC is offering a free year of LifeLock to the East pilots.

 

[SizzleChest]

F9 A319 has to be the FAPA prez or someone on their board.....

 

[F9 A319]

F9 A319 has to be the FAPA prez or someone on their board.....

Nope, just an interested pilot with friends at each company involved.

 

[Bolo]

F9 A319 has to be the FAPA prez or someone on their board.....

Try again SIZZLE CHEST! Keep guessing!

 

[Bolo]

According to F9 A319, it was more than a phone number. He has the info, ask him.

TSA cares where they got it. FBI cares. It's how you obtain the info and what you do with it.

Ask the three AWA pilots placed on admin leave and why LCC is offering a free year of LifeLock to the East pilots.

DUDE, its a poll! If you do not want to be bothered with it, don't answer or tell them to piss off. If that does not satisfy you go sue somebody!

Seriously?

 

[F9 A319]

Try again SIZZLE CHEST! Keep guessing!

Sorry, it's not necessary or relevant to keep guessing. There are plenty of pilots at RAH, UTU, ALPA and FAPA that know who I am. It's simply not important.

FAPA does an exceptional job of keeping its membership informed, especially if the individual has an interest. Every FAPA BoD member will take the time and discuss every issue they can with any member. They are but a phone call away.

Between FAPA's accessibility and being able to talk to pilots at all 4 companies in a reasonable, calm manner - whether you always agree or not - makes it pretty easy to stay informed.

People just don't like to talk to others that don't pay attention or refuse to consider alternatives. If you have already made up your mind on an issue regardless of the facts, it's going to be a short discussion.

The interesting thing to me is that I don't know a ton of stuff that's going on or will happen in the future.

A saying I read somewhere said, "This is the Diem we must Carpe."

Here's to tomorrow!

 

[ChinaClipper]

IBT keeps the contracts simple.....the F.A.R's and no JA. Maybe a list of low-cost vendors for snazzy back packs and hair salons specializing in blonde highlights? PUHLEEESE Olive Oil, when ya'll have a claim other than "My wages are so bad it allows the extra $$$ to let The Papal Annuncio to expand his Air Force" I might listen. Ya'll aint gotta hair on yer arse....This place has a dimmer future than a hooker with a chipped tooth.....God, PLEASE GET ME OUTTA HERE!

 

[Popeye0537]

IBT keeps the contracts simple.....the F.A.R's and no JA. Maybe a list of low-cost vendors for snazzy back packs and hair salons specializing in blonde highlights? PUHLEEESE Olive Oil, when ya'll have a claim other than "My wages are so bad it allows the extra $$$ to let The Papal Annuncio to expand his Air Force" I might listen. Ya'll aint gotta hair on yer arse....This place has a dimmer future than a hooker with a chipped tooth.....God, PLEASE GET ME OUTTA HERE!

Awww, another bitter FO who feels he got the shaft from the SLI and now wishes this place to fail.

 

[ChinaClipper]

IBT Math?

When is 100 really 99? BTW Not bitter, why should I be? The guy just above me on the "list that will never happen" wasn't BORN when I was flying Rubber dog shart in a BE18....you youngsters can read all about that on the Smithsonian Website....Just keep saying "...the FARS and No JA...." Yes you Papacy I just put that o bags in that big ol' car"

 

[SizzleChest]

well now that single carrier is determined.... the list is closer to happening!

 

[jetalc]

Celebrate, all IBT worshippers - for some day you will all feel what it's like to get your life ripped away from you in one fell swoop. Congrats on your "victory."

 

[Cardinal]

Well..........Vote ALPA!!

 

[jetalc]

I plan on it.

 

[trainer8]

Wow...NMB rules RAH carriers a single transportation system and FI moderators immediately move the thread to Regionals?

No bias there, eh?

 

[Popeye0537]

Wow...NMB rules RAH carriers a single transportation system and FI moderators immediately move the thread to Regionals?

No bias there, eh?

That's because one of them works for Value Jet...oops I mean Airtran, so he likes to put his LCC airline in the Major section.

 

[BUDDHA145]

Celebrate, all IBT worshippers - for some day you will all feel what it's like to get your life ripped away from you in one fell swoop. Congrats on your "victory."

What victory??? we need to vote for new representation!! your cap upgrate is secure for 7 year on the A319 family and damn I hope you're a cap before that!! ( no complains. I thing it is yours before me).

But I will like to know how you just lost your life?? did you got downgrate to a E-145 FO and you qualify for food stamps now?? or you just lost your benefits?? or no you just lost your pay increase to 125% when you work more than 82 hours?? no wait you just got eligally displace?? Men you got "CERO IDEA" what we go through here!!! so go to old Bedford and tell him how he lie to you about: "Oh yeah will keep you seperate".

You have no fn idea of whats getting your life rippe away!!! I get to fly with Midwest cap sitting on the right seat on a E-170 and talk to them how their carrier got fk by management.... you know what ever

youre a mamas boy you big crying baby!!!

 

[SizzleChest]

I plan on it.

Good luck with that. In the meantime, enjoy still getting a paycheck and having a company to work for however crummy it is.

 

[DeucesWild]

What victory??? we need to vote for new representation!! your cap upgrate is secure for 7 year on the A319 family and damn I hope you're a cap before that!! ( no complains. I thing it is yours before me).

But I will like to know how you just lost your life?? did you got downgrate to a E-145 FO and you qualify for food stamps now?? or you just lost your benefits?? or no you just lost your pay increase to 125% when you work more than 82 hours?? no wait you just got eligally displace?? Men you got "CERO IDEA" what we go through here!!! so go to old Bedford and tell him how he lie to you about: "Oh yeah will keep you seperate".

You have no fn idea of whats getting your life rippe away!!! I get to fly with Midwest cap sitting on the right seat on a E-170 and talk to them how their carrier got fk by management.... you know what ever

youre a mamas boy you big crying baby!!!

I wanted to capture your post before you sobered up and edited or deleted it. I hope your excuse will be severe intoxication, because if not, your immaturity and your lack of literacy should be a disgrace to your airline as well as yourself.

 

[trainer8]

I wanted to capture your post before you sobered up and edited or deleted it. I hope your excuse will be severe intoxication, because if not, your immaturity and your lack of literacy should be a disgrace to your airline as well as yourself.

Read it with a Spanish accent....:laugh:

 

[jetalc]

What victory??? we need to vote for new representation!! your cap upgrate is secure for 7 year on the A319 family and damn I hope you're a cap before that!! ( no complains. I thing it is yours before me).

But I will like to know how you just lost your life?? did you got downgrate to a E-145 FO and you qualify for food stamps now?? or you just lost your benefits?? or no you just lost your pay increase to 125% when you work more than 82 hours?? no wait you just got eligally displace?? Men you got "CERO IDEA" what we go through here!!! so go to old Bedford and tell him how he lie to you about: "Oh yeah will keep you seperate".

You have no fn idea of whats getting your life rippe away!!! I get to fly with Midwest cap sitting on the right seat on a E-170 and talk to them how their carrier got fk by management.... you know what ever

youre a mamas boy you big crying baby!!!

Ok, first of all, try an English dictionary. Your post is painful to read, and I would imagine you think you're being somewhat literate... not the case.

Regarding the "crying Baby" comment, let me just say that I'm in this gig long-term, and am looking beyond a relatively short seven year timeframe. Even if I upgraded to Captain between now and then, as soon as the Republic guys/gals start coming over, my quality of life will do nothing but get worse and worse. That's reality, not whining. It sucks, and I wonder what gives those people the right to adversely affect my QOL when their "career expectations" amounted to retiring flying an RJ, complete with the accompanying payscale? I took the chance and left the regionals, starting at the bottom of a company that had the potential for earning more than was possible at the regional where I worked for nine years.

Don't tell me how good I'll have it for the next seven years. After the fence is down, it will only get worse and worse. If you don't raise your expectations for the future, your pay and QOL will perpetually suck, and now that 'We are one' (steaming pile of...) we now need to work together to raise the bar to the should be. My current QOL should be the norm - why do you seem so willing to accept that as anything else?

 

[jetalc]

Read it with a Spanish accent....:laugh:

Now, THAT'S funny...

 

[Axel]

Ok, first of all, try an English dictionary. Your post is painful to read, and I would imagine you think you're being somewhat literate... not the case.

Regarding the "crying Baby" comment, let me just say that I'm in this gig long-term, and am looking beyond a relatively short seven year timeframe. Even if I upgraded to Captain between now and then, as soon as the Republic guys/gals start coming over, my quality of life will do nothing but get worse and worse. That's reality, not whining. It sucks, and I wonder what gives those people the right to adversely affect my QOL when their "career expectations" amounted to retiring flying an RJ, complete with the accompanying payscale? I took the chance and left the regionals, starting at the bottom of a company that had the potential for earning more than was possible at the regional where I worked for nine years.

Don't tell me how good I'll have it for the next seven years. After the fence is down, it will only get worse and worse. If you don't raise your expectations for the future, your pay and QOL will perpetually suck, and now that 'We are one' (steaming pile of...) we now need to work together to raise the bar to the should be. My current QOL should be the norm - why do you seem so willing to accept that as anything else?

Thank you for the irony. I love irony.

 

[Cardinal]

But I will like to know how you just lost your life?? did you got downgrate to a E-145 FO and you qualify for food stamps now?? .....Men you got "CERO IDEA" what we go through here!!!

Spare me. Don't you get it, we've already lived that life. We didn't want anything to do with little airplanes, food stamp wages, or IBT representation ever again - we're over it.