What was Airtran thinking?

[BSkin]

Size doesn't matter son when you are the best. I am sure you use your left hand for other reasons that we don't need to discuss on this board nor would any of us care to hear you go into detail. Ta Ta.

Chuck, there was a reasonable discussion on here, but you've brought it to your TOOL shed, you f-ing dweeb. If you have a problem, please pm me, a$$!

 

[-9Capt]

Half of you guys are complete idiots. We don't charge a dime for the jumpseat, it's free you dipsh!t.

Say this over and over until it sticks "AIRTRAN ONLY ALLOWS 1 (ONE) JUMPSEATER".

If you aren't the first one you have the option of buying a $25 non-rev ticket. You are no longer considered a "jumpseater" you are now a "pass rider".

Does the policy suck, you bet. Now get over it.

 

[gt1900]

UMMMM Chuck...Hate to get involved in this but don't be so arrogant. Of course Midwest is going win a battle of MKE...They should, its your only hub (btw...how much money has Midwest made in the last 3 years?)! Your really gonna eat your words if and when AT takes you over. A little humility goes a long way, you obviously haven't learned that in all your 15000 plus hours of flight time. If AT does take you over, there is a good chance you won't be comming. I hear they only want your a/c and gates. But hey, you will probably get a preferential interview, so smile, you may still have a job!!!

 

[sluminginpit]

This discusion is as useless as this career! Keep charging for the jumpseat Airtran, before you know it it will cost a $100 per seat, no more free rides. And Ty, by the way, we all have jumpseats and we all carry one another. Who would be more impacted, if AT banned individual carriers or if all carriers banned AT. Stop talking so much $hit, things change fast in this industry and you may be looking for a job someday.

 

[Ty Webb]

Who would be more impacted, if AT banned individual carriers or if all carriers banned AT.

Well, that's easy. Chuckie would be most impacted, since it's clear he already has an impaction going on . . . a cranio-rectal impaction . . . . any of you guys with a medical background know what I'm talking about here . . . .

Stop talking so much $hit, things change fast in this industry and you may be looking for a job someday.

Sorry, Charley . . . . if I were to be looking for a job tomorrow, it wouldn't be at the bottom of another airline seniority list, that's for sure. This is my one go-round, and when the job isn't worth doing anymore, I won't be doing it.

But it looks good on you, though . . .


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[Vwipe]

gotta put my 2 cents in...

I carry an ID90 that cost me $63 one way. I would gladly pay $25 to get a seat if someone else got the first js. Management or not we still have to play by their rules. They make 'em

Hey Tubel, you're a real nimrod, why don't you stick to flyin small stuff.

 

[md83drvr]

Okay guys. Its been said over and over. No one likes the AirTran policy. But its not the pilots that made it. What ever happend to treating others the way you want to be treated? I remember when Delta and others couldn't even offer an offline jumpseat. In thoes days most airlines would still carry Delta pilots, why? because it was the proffesional thing to do.

Both Ty and Chuckie need to grown up. Act like the proffesionals you think you are and stop using the jumpseat as a polictical statment.

Before 9/11 almost all airlines only carried the number of jumpseaters equal to the number of jumpseats on the aircraft.

I have been left at the gate by almost every airline at least once in my carrer, before most changed to unlimited. AirTran at least offers an alternative to getting home.

Why hasn't anyone ever raise a fuss over US, TWA, UAL, AA, DAL, CAL, NWA, etc, and thier policy of only allowing 1 jumpseater? (I know some have changed to unlimited) Or is it just an attack on AirTran?

 

[FNG_that's me]

To answer the orig. question, "What was Airtran thinking?"

They were thinking, "Hey, this is a great way to get the pilots all ticked off at each other, so that we can break them down and treat them even worse."

Looks to me like it's working.

 

[fletch717]

To answer the orig. question, "What was Airtran thinking?"

They were thinking, "Hey, this is a great way to get the pilots all ticked off at each other, so that we can break them down and treat them even worse."

Looks to me like it's working.

This is based on your vast experience in the airline business?

 

[Pilotbob3]

Hey, Fr8 MB, please tell us all about your current employer's jumpseat policy, and how many 121 pilots are able to take advantage of it, and while you're at it, tell us all about your tireless efforts to make sure that your company offers a viable jumpseat opportunity to the rest of us that haul your ungrateful carcass around.


Yeah, that's what I thought.

don't have time to read the other 5 pages....but c'mon Ty, don't get so defensive about "your" airline. as far as i know every FL pilot ive met hates that policy and wishes it would go away. its not your fault its there...or is it? lol.........

N E way....ill tell you about my current employers jumpseat policy....unlimited FREE cabin jumpseats for OAL pilots and FA's. plus 2 additional FA jumpseats available to pilots and FA's....plus 2 cockpit jumpseats available to CASS members. no tireless efforts since policy already in place when i got here. ps..and no you don't have to clean the cabin, that has been taken care of.

i have used FL many times and rarely have had to pay the fee. and i don't mind doing it if i have to.......id rather pay than be stuck in the airport for hours. i hope you guys go CASS soon....any news on that?

 

[FNG_that's me]

This is based on your vast experience in the airline business?

I rest my case.

You don't know who I am, what I fly, or for whom. Yet your retort is based solely on an attack on my experience, not the content of my post.

I could be Airtran management, a Boeing test pilot, a 777 captain, or a 13 year old boy playing hookie from school. That is inconsequential. Disagree, if you must, with my post...based on what my post states. If it angers you, then grow up. If it strikes a nerve, then figure out why. If I'm wrong, then prove me so(or at least offer other explainations, as there surely are some). But, if nothing else, do youself a favor and figure out why the concept of my post stirs you to sling mud, not facts or even ideas.

 

[fletch717]

Your first post assumes you know what management is thinking, and that there was some diabolical plan hatched in a board room in order to piss off the pilot group. So based on your first post I'll say 13 years old playing hooky from school.

 

[fletch717]

I rest my case.


Whatever Matlock

 

[FNG_that's me]

Your first post assumes you know what management is thinking, and that there was some diabolical plan hatched in a board room in order to piss off the pilot group. So based on your first post I'll say 13 years old playing hooky from school.

Yes, it does assume that. Since I'm not Airtran management, how else am I to attempt to answer the original question? Use the magic 8-ball? My sources say no!

And if you don't think management teams attempt to upset labor(pilot) groups by using such childish tactics then you are wrong. It may not be true here, but it certainly happens.

Whatever Matlock.

It took you ten minutes to come up with this?

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

It took you ten minutes to come up with this?[/quote]

I am sure it did. Ty is 13 year old Fletch was thinking of.

 

[Ty Webb]

Chuckie, I heard that in your younger days, you wrote to the Village People and asked them to let you audition to be the new guy in the group . . "the Pilot" . . . with a hat, big Ray-Bans and blue polyester chaps? Any truth to that?

It would explain a lot . . .

 

[Redmeat]

Chuck, you probably think of more 13 year-olds than Michael Jackson. But maybe you ought to ge tone of 'em to proofread your posts for you . . they are written so poorly, they might as well have been written in crayon.

I love it when guys get back from the bar and post and basically make a$$'s of themselves.

Ty, I will give you some free advice, quit chasing this guy. You are making yourself look bad.

Edit: I was qouting the post above which seems to have completely changed since I made my post.

 

[FL_Jumpseat]

The policy is what it is. If you don't like it, bring it to the attention of your jumpseat chairman/coordinator and have them send me a letter. They have my address.

Again, if you don't like the policy I suggest you ask your jumpseat coordinator to threaten to terminate our agreement by sending a letter to me.

As for CASS, we are working on it. We will get it eventually.

BTW, if we don't have an agreement with your airline, please contact us and see if we can set something up.

 

[Ty Webb]

love it when guys get back from the bar and post and basically make a$$'s of themselves.

Heh- heh . . . . Didn't make it to the Fox Bar tonight, thanks. . . . my swinging brother Yurgi reported no foxes tonight to swing with.

As for "making myself look bad" . . . .well, let's just say that this place is for entertainment purposes only (although I do try to help guys out with some employment info, when asked). I don't take this stuff too seriously, and I hope you guys don't either.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Heh- heh . . . . Didn't make it to the Fox Bar tonight, thanks. . . . my swinging brother Yurgi reported no foxes tonight to swing with.

As for "making myself look bad" . . . .well, let's just say that this place is for entertainment purposes only (although I do try to help guys out with some employment info, when asked). I don't take this stuff too seriously, and I hope you guys don't either.

You freaking Dweeb. You post just about wherever I do. Then when you are getting your ass kicked, you post as Best Pilot. I have told you before, back off jackass. It's good to see others are tired of your lame attempts to flame also.