Watch out FOs on Before T/O PAs

[laserman2431]

Free ride? Call whoever you like. If you find someone abusing the job, then report it. All enroute inspections (that’s jumpseat to you) are recorded and approved by a supervisor and have to have a job function. If not an Inspector can and have been fired. Rare, but does happen. I know of two in 20 years. In any system you can find abuses.

JAFI. I think a thorough review of those records might reveal some interesting patterns. I assume all those records are public documents under the FOIA. If not, I'm sure members of Congress can gain access and conduct a study. It would be interesting to look for patterns like Monday and Friday inspections, Certain inspectors inspecting the same routes over and over again, inspectors who inspect routes from where they live to where they work. The FAA has nothing to hide right?

Or, another idea might be for everyone to be cool. Report the real problems, don't worry about pre-takeoff PAs and enjoy the free ride.

 

[JAFI]

Laser you can call for any review you want anytime. Call whoever you want anytime. I welcome audits and have had several. No worries. I follow guidance.

The "who gets the jumpseat question" comes up every couple years. You can revisit it any time.

I do not speak for the FAA, only for myself.

An Inspector is required by order to bring up ANY safety concerns as they see them. The key IMHO is to determine if this is an informational question, an immediate safety question, or where in the order of all is OK to having bent metal is this going. How you conduct yourself not only reflects on you but on your company. That includes Inspectors and flight crew.

Get facts, not innuendo. I have found it takes more than a quick conversation to become "well informed" of a situation. There is always more to the story than what you first find out. Know your job and follow the program.

And it is not a free ride, it is a job function that is mandated by Congress.

 

[laserman2431]

The US Department of Justice offers guidance about government employees accepting gifts at http://www.justice.gov/jmd/ethics/generalf.htm#1 . The document states that "A Federal employee may not accept gifts from any person or organization that conducts activities regulated by the employee's agency."

The term "gift" includes almost anything of monetary value. But there are some items that won't be considered gifts. Among these are soft drinks, coffee, donuts, and other modest refreshments offered other than as part of a meal.
Other items that won't be considered gifts include--
Items of little intrinsic value which are intended solely for presentation, such as greeting cards, plaques, certificates, and trophies;
Anything paid for by the Government or secured by the Government in accordance with a statute;

• Anything for which the employee pays market value;
• Most rewards and prizes in contests open to the public;
• Commercial discounts available to the general public or to all Government or military personnel;
• Loans from banks and other financial institutions on terms generally available to the public; and
• Payments under pension and similar employee benefit plans.

So the question is "is that free ride a gift?" If the inspector is using the jumpseat to commute to work it definitely has intrinsic value. If the inspector didn't ride in the jumpseat, she would have to buy a ticket or spend money on gas.

I think it is best to leave it alone. Let the FAA enjoy a nice little perk. I hope you guys don't go and ruin it for yourselves.

 

[laserman2431]

Recalling an interview that was set up for a specific candidate, well you need to read the entire thread. I was happy I did not work there. The turnover rate was very high because the company was extremely hostile to its employees (you may not have ever heard of such a company yet, but you may someday).

If you didn't want the job, why were you crying about the deck being stacked in favor of the military pilots. Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me. Don't worry. I think even if you had passed the test, they would have identified you as a whiny crybaby anyway.

 

[JAFI]

I think you should push the test on this one. Call the Justice Department, Congress, the news media. If you have a case, make it. Please call, write, and go for it. I wait for the audit.

On the other hand if you have no clue what your talking about then you will just look like a fool. But go ahead, it is your right.

Here ya go:

http://transportation.house.gov/

http://www.cnn.com/

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc90/

U.S. Department of Transportation
Federal Aviation Administration
800 Independence Avenue, SW
Washington, DC 20591
1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322)

 

[JAFI]

If you didn't want the job, why were you crying about the deck being stacked in favor of the military pilots. Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me. Don't worry. I think even if you had passed the test, they would have identified you as a whiny crybaby anyway.

Now you need that nap again.

 

[laserman2431]

I think you should push the test on this one. Call the Justice Department, Congress, the news media. If you have a case, make it. Please call, write, and go for it. I wait for the audit.

On the other hand if you have no clue what your talking about then you will just look like a fool. But go ahead, it is your right.

Here ya go:

http://transportation.house.gov/

http://www.cnn.com/

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc90/

U.S. Department of Transportation
Federal Aviation Administration
800 Independence Avenue, SW
Washington, DC 20591
1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322)

OK. I was just going to let it go, but if you think I should then I'll go ahead.

 

[laserman2431]

Now you need that nap again.

A nap does sound good right now.

 

[JAFI]

OK. I was just going to let it go, but if you think I should then I'll go ahead.

I do need to go buy more popcorn and cold drinks. Maybe a new office chair. Snack and a free show - living right.

 

[tomgoodman]

A friend told me that, once upon a time, a Captain might let the Inspector fly the leg. But you can't believe everything you hear....