watch for the bird --- ejection

[Wasted]

That video was taken from a BAe Hawk.

 

[uh60james]

Makes me glad I'm sitting on two engines.

 

[Slye]

From another message board on the same video:

"Turns out it was a RCAF Hawk at Moose Jaw during the spring of last year. Ate a seagull at 800' after a touch and go. The British student had minor cuts but was drinking in the mess that evening. The Canadian IP wasn't so lucky, broke his femur in two places and his pelvis. Several months in the hospital."

 

[91100 100 set]

Interesting video. I couldn't make out the second aural warning until I read some of the other posts and I agree, it sounds like "gear not down".

Anybody else notice how the plane appeared to pitch down a good 20-30 degrees during or immediately after they seemed to eject? Some kind of automatic thing to help the seats clear the plane, just the rocket motors in the seats pushing the nose down as they leave the plane, or just the controls getting flailed around during the ejection?

 

[AdlerDriver]

That sucks.

Was he turning to try to make it back to the runway? Should he have flown it straight ahead?

If he had had a bit more altitude, would he have been able to do a 180 dead-stick without pancaking or do you need a whole lot more speed/steeper descent rate than that in a jet?

What would "straight ahead" done for him? The runway was behind him. The straight ahead thing is if you're going to stay with the aircraft and ride it in. His only option was jumping out if he couldn't make the runway. At least he tried that until it was obvious there would be no restart and the runway was not close enough.

 

[9GClub]

What would "straight ahead" done for him? The runway was behind him. The straight ahead thing is if you're going to stay with the aircraft and ride it in. His only option was jumping out if he couldn't make the runway. At least he tried that until it was obvious there would be no restart and the runway was not close enough.

I was just thinking that straight ahead = better airspeed maintenance and less altitude loss. Both of which work to your advantage whether or not you're gonna punch out.

I dunno why the guy thought he could make it back to the runway from 800' in a jet, although I guess I would have tried that too initially.

 

[TDTURBO]

It looked to me anyway, that the guy could have just dead sticked it on the clay and been better off. Where it crashed it looked flat as hell, can't say about the surroundings though.

 

[MVSW]

It looked to me anyway, that the guy could have just dead sticked it on the clay and been better off. Where it crashed it looked flat as hell, can't say about the surroundings though.

Thats what I was thinking. Why not dead stick it on the ground?

 

[TDTURBO]

Thats what I was thinking. Why not dead stick it on the ground?

Maybe they drop like rocks and you have to fly them in, donno, I wish someone that flys one would comment. It would seem hard to imagine any plane getting certified that couldn't be dead sticked in though.

Again, what the hell, it ain't their money, screw the plane. They still got messed up ejecting. I think I would have just landed it, instinct I guess, I own it, I ain't jumpin out of it!

 

[Ill Mitch]

Thats what I was thinking. Why not dead stick it on the ground?

What do the EP's (or whatever they call them up north) say? I'd rather eject. Deadsticking an airplane whose best glide is going to be in the 130KT range into a field is probably not the best of ideas.
If he they had an option for a runway, go for it. But there are probably not to many incidents where a fast jet (yea I know) successfully landed engine out in a field.

 

[TDTURBO]

I think the stall is quite a bit lower than that.

 

[Slye]

It may not have been possible to deadstick. I'm not familiar with the systems on the Hawk but on other aircraft if the flight controls are hydraulicly actuated and the hydraulic system gets its pressure from the engine then with an engine failure you lose the ability to control the aircraft, either right away if the engine froze due to the bird, or if you've still got windmilling hydraulics, you lose control while slowing down on short final. I'd hope that since it's a single engine jet that it'd have some redundancy though. Even if it could deadstick, it's got a seat for a reason, no need to go offroading in a vehicle not designed for it. Just take the seat.

 

[Immelman]

Am I the only one that thinks they did a fantastic job??? They converted airspeed to max altitude, had enough time to attempt restart, maneuvered to an unpopulated area, and exited the airplane when it wouldn't work out..... sounds like a damn fine job to me.... airplanes can be replaced, not lives.

 

[de Pez]

Dead-sticking a single-engine, hydraulically actuated A/C in after a birdstrike at 800ft.?!!! The only thing that makes sense about that statement is the word dead.

 

[SIG600]

Bird Vs. Jet

Anyone know the story behind this?

http://www.fazed.org/video/view/?id=47#boidie

IP def kept his cool... props. F-16?