Virgin America - April 14th class.

[Wheres the van?]

Hey Fadec,great news JBs new lodge in MCO has agreed to honour Orange Counties contribution to the development of the site,the new lodge will simply be known as the Orange Lodge scheduled to open Jul 12th 2009.The avionics trainees at Live tv have even signed up for a parade in its honour these apprentice boys sure love to march.Slan!

 

[Green Banana]

Avondale Partners airline analyst Bob McAdoo, meanwhile, predicted in a research note Monday that upstart Virgin America -- which is privately held and therefore releases less operating information than publicly owned carriers -- could be the next casualty.

McAdoo cited preliminary filings with the Department of Transportation that suggest the carrier is rapidly losing money, and flew planes that were considerably emptier than some of its competitors through the end of last year.

``We caution that these estimates are based on limited (Transportation Department) filings and may be overly pessimistic,'' he wrote. ``However, given the ownership structure of Virgin America ... we see parallels between Virgin and the three failed airlines.''

Tic, Tic, Tic..........

 

[mvedepo]

Avondale Partners airline analyst Bob McAdoo, meanwhile, predicted in a research note Monday that upstart Virgin America -- which is privately held and therefore releases less operating information than publicly owned carriers -- could be the next casualty.

McAdoo cited preliminary filings with the Department of Transportation that suggest the carrier is rapidly losing money, and flew planes that were considerably emptier than some of its competitors through the end of last year.

``We caution that these estimates are based on limited (Transportation Department) filings and may be overly pessimistic,'' he wrote. ``However, given the ownership structure of Virgin America ... we see parallels between Virgin and the three failed airlines.''

Tic, Tic, Tic..........

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

Pop, what planet do you live on. Please, for the love off god will you just use a spell checker before you post. Infact, why don't you just stop posting as your contributions make absolutely no sense. You truely are the village idiot.

Did you honestly just call someone out to use spell check? You might also want to use a grammar editor next time before clicking "submit".

 

[skiandsurf]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

I have heard that your loads are terrible. I dont have specific numbers, but from 1 of your captains, the loads are not good.

 

[Green Banana]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

You really are drinking that red koolaid!

That money is not yours. It is venture capitalist's and can be pulled at any time they think they might not get a return on investment.

Acquiring aircraft and hiring means nothing. Many airlines that shut down were having classes on the same day and still had many deliveries in the future.

High load factor means nothing. Are you kidding? VA is charging $77. Of course your load factor is high. the problem is you are not ever close to covering your costs.

If everything is so Rosy Red, Why is your company pleading to the government to not release its numbers to the public. Let me quote them
"would cause Virgin America to suffer

substantial competitive harm because the local nature of traffic in its point-to-point markets and​

the limited number of aircraft types operated"

You are FAR from profitable and stable. I am not picking a fight. Just stating facts.


http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064803fae7d

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

Load factor is almost meaningless -- check your yield.

 

[Green Banana]

Load factor is almost meaningless -- check your yield.

Ooops, Can't do that. It may cause harm to the company if people knew their yield...

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

You forgot the best part: NO HAT! NO TIES! All right!!

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

If everything is so Rosy Red, Why is your company pleading to the government to not release its numbers to the public. Let me quote them
"would cause Virgin America to suffer

substantial competitive harm because the local nature of traffic in its point-to-point markets and​

the limited number of aircraft types operated"

You are FAR from profitable and stable. I am not picking a fight. Just stating facts.


http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064803fae7d

I dunno dude. It seems like this is a smart move for VA. Keep your cards close so your competitors have to guess at how much you're making especially considering the size of VA vs. it's competitors. 'gutsiest move I ever saw mav.'

 

[mvedepo]

I have heard that your loads are terrible. I dont have specific numbers, but from 1 of your captains, the loads are not good.

Not true. You can go on the VA website and look at the loads. The average is 84%-86%.

 

[mvedepo]

Ooops, Can't do that. It may cause harm to the company if people knew their yield...

I take it your interview didn't go well and now Virgin sucks.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Lets see...

• Just under $200 million in the bank
• Accelerated aircraft acquisition
• Hiring 20+ pilots a month indefinitely
• Building a Virgin America Training center to include sims
• Had a load factor last weekend of 94%. Avg loads have been high 80% and we haven't started advertising yet.

Yeah I think we'll be done in a week.

You know, I looked at this list again -- you'd think VA was your first airline or something. LFs? Hiring? Aircraft orders? Building a ... uh ... building?

That's your plan? Get 'em?

Those things you mentioned guarantee absolutely nothing. They sound like talking points from your VP of Flight Ops.

Branson is probably the only thing that you can hang your hat on.

 

[spinproof]

You know, I looked at this list again -- you'd think VA was your first airline or something. LFs? Hiring? Aircraft orders? Building a ... uh ... building?

That's your plan? Get 'em?

Those things you mentioned guarantee absolutely nothing. They sound like talking points from your VP of Flight Ops.

Branson is probably the only thing that you can hang your hat on.

Interesting...what do you hang your hat on???

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Interesting...what do you hang your hat on???

Grey Goose and Red Bull. Don't forget land. Land is the only thing valuable these days.

Oh you mean jetblue? I have a 6 month plan. I think I have at least 6 months at jb. Every month that goes by, I extend the plan 1 month. We ain't by any means outta the woods.

No one should be cocky these days (ahem, VA).