USAPA's Illegal Job Action Causing Pilot Terminations.

[Golden Falcon]

Pardon my old-fashioned-ness, back to the original topic, but does the "online thingy"meet the FAA recurrency requirements? so are folks refusing to complete online courses requred to meet their obligation to maintain recency??..Sorry been overseas 20+ years...Al Gore hadnt "invented" the internet yet!!

 

[goodgig]

Excuse my ignorance folks, but is there a link to the discussion of the incident that the full page ad in McPaper alludes to today?

 

[becket]

Excuse my ignorance folks, but is there a link to the discussion of the incident that the full page ad in McPaper alludes to today?

The ad is just another USAPA grandiose lie. Nothing happened. The bottom line is USAPA promised the East pilots an industry standard contract including a DOH seniority list over 3 years ago. Because of their idiocy, they won't be seeing an industry standard contract for at least 3 MORE years and in all likelihood, will NEVER see a DOH seniority list.

USAPA knows it's days are numbered if it can't make something....ANYTHING happen for the east pilots so driven solely by desperation; The USA Today ad.

It's so pathetic it makes me Ill. These guys deserve jail time for jeopardizing the livelihoods of the other 35,000 SANE employees. Doug Parker must be back on the sauce to be letting this happen right under his nose. Idiot.

 

[MCDU]

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[Guppiedriver]

Typical uSAPa half truths and omissions.

 

[charlie2]

Typical uSAPa half truths and omissions.

Please tell us then what really happened.

 

[denny]

Please tell us then what really happened.

After abrogating her authority as pilot in command and collapsing in fear to those who hold no authority or superiority over her as captain, she went into the boarding area and made a PA that the airline/her aircraft was not safe to fly on and should seek other accomodations now and in the future.

 

[charlie2]

After the A330 went completely dark during engine start maintenance wanted to defer the APU and have her fly it over the Atlantic. I don't how much knowledge you have but trust me this shouldn't happen. The chief pilot asked her 5 times if she was refusing to fly and then replaced her. While she was legally waiting in the terminal to brief the reserve crew she was removed by security. After the new crew demanded the same thing that the aircraft get fixed or replaced maintenance did find a problem and fixed it. A third crew flew it the next morning. Why is this behavior by management acceptable to anyone even our west foes?

 

[Guppiedriver]

Please tell us then what really happened.

I purposely didn't tell the whole story because I don't have all of the details. uSAPa's version in the USA Today and your version above is NOT the whole story. You guys only include enough detail so that it syncs up with your campaign.

Why did you omit her rant in the boarding area? Was the MEL illegal? Post up details of the MX discrepancy and the associated MEL.

 

[charlie2]

I purposely didn't tell the whole story because I don't have all of the details. uSAPa's version in the USA Today and your version above is NOT the whole story. You guys only include enough detail so that it syncs up with your campaign.

Why did you omit her rant in the boarding area? Was the MEL illegal? Post up details of the MX discrepancy and the associated MEL.

You heard her rant? You know very well that there is a differance between legal and sensible. Remember maintenance finally did find a faulty hot battery bus as well as a faulty contoller for the APU and fixed them.

 

[FR8mastr]

Why is this behavior by management acceptable to anyone even our west foes?

Because certain posters on here have so much hate, that the East could say the sun rises in the East, and they would argue that its all a conspiracy. Of course all the while claiming its the East that is angry.

 

[ableone]

After abrogating her authority as pilot in command and collapsing in fear to those who hold no authority or superiority over her as captain, she went into the boarding area and made a PA that the airline/her aircraft was not safe to fly on and should seek other accomodations now and in the future.

Do you have proof of this or is this just rumor number 43?

I have read the Captain's report and so far it looks like the company is getting the press that they deserve.

 

[denny]

I've read the captain's report too. In all my years here I have never had to tell the chief pilot or scheduling or anyone else more than once that I'm refusing an airplane unless/until it gets fixed.

This captain in her report wrote that she was intimidated by the chief pilot, by maintenance, by the company and the rent a cops. This is not a captain I want to be associated with. She obviously had no idea how to calmly and professionally handle the situation. That is what the company pays us to do.

I wouldn't have flown the plane either. I also would not allow MX or the CP to back talk me. In my 22 years here that is unheard of.

This is just another example of a pilot not having any cajones and being easily intimated by her subordinates.

 

[BuddyF]

This is just another example of a pilot not having any cajones and being easily intimated by her subordinates.[/QUOTE]


So you don't think she had any cajones, your one smart fellar there denny.

 

[Lampshade]

Here's what the FAA report says:

"The FAA manager assigned to the US Airways certificate reviewed the June 16, 2011 incident. The APU shutdown the aircraft experienced is a failure that pilots are well aware can happen and that they are trained to recognize. The battery apparently was depleted by attempts to restart the APU. Flying an aircraft with an inoperative APU is not an unusual event and normally poses no safety issues when proper limitations are applied. The Captain simply chose to exercise her pilot-in-command authority of not accepting an aircraft. Our information indicates that US Airways followed their approved MEL procedures, and all maintenance procedures were followed in accordance with the operator’s approved maintenance program. We found no violations of Federal Aviation Regulations."