JoeMerchant
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not too convincing fellas
......neither side is that convincing.....kinda like our choices for President....pick your poison.....
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not too convincing fellas
......neither side is that convincing.....kinda like our choices for President....pick your poison.....
I find it ironic that these guys rolled the dice once with binding arbitration, didn't get what they wanted and now want the dice back. If I could do this in Vegas I would have millions. I am a strong believer that a man is only as good as his word. Sounds like they've got some great folks over there.
Perhaps this is too complicated for you, but the idiots you are complaining about are the ones we are ousting. You're right: ALPA East in this case is a group of people we no longer trust. They suck; you know it and everyone else knows it. Hence, the election!
not too convincing fellas
Ahh, but you see, this is what people who support USAPA do best.
ALPA isn't perfect, but it provides much protection, vast resources and the only path towards unity this pilot group has. It's the only viable choice.
USAPA is a seniority grab attempt that will fail...in fact, it's probably going to fail in 2 weeks, but on the outside chance they're voted in, it will fail in the courts.
In the meantime, the only thing those goons can come up with is letters of interest for insurance, an insurance company and a line pilot to replace aeromedical and the list goes on and on. How's the credit line from the bank coming? Still 'shopping' your business around?
You all know that USAPA thinks it will negotiate a joint contract with a 1 man team (a continental guy) with virtually no experience? That will be the second time they get laughed out of headquarters...the first being when then try to present a new list to Doug.
For those of you like BeCareful who don't think it could be any worse than ALPA - you may get to see how painfully wrong you are.
Hopefully common sense will prevail and the collective majority will save these guys from themselves.
So....instead of simply recalling your entire ALPA East MEC and LEC leadership you're voting to get rid of ALPA representation altogether? Simply because you don't trust your current leadership?
Cut off the nose to spite the face much?
ALPA F'ed itself with the MDA shell game. Stay tuned
Truth About the MDA Decision
By:
US Airways MEC Communications Committee
ALPA Legal Department
Last week the U.S. District judge in New York dismissed the MDA lawsuit that was
filed in 2005 over the terms and conditions of employment of the MDA pilots. The
lawsuit contained several claims; the Court dismissed most of them because they were
time barred—that is, the statute of limitations had run out before their lawyer filed the
complaint. The Court dismissed several other claims on the merits.
The judge also allowed the plaintiffs to file a new supplemental complaint to make a
new duty of fair representation claim. The gist of this new claim is that the seniority list
submitted to Nicolau by the US Airways MEC Merger Committee was erroneous
because the MDA pilots should not have been designated as furloughed, and therefore
the Award should be overturned and damages awarded.
The response from the plaintiffs and USAPA supporters to the Court’s ruling is
amazing in its total disregard for the truth, as were the false rumors from vocal USAPA
supporters who said that ALPA had made a substantial settlement offer in that case.
They are now saying that the judge has found that ALPA violated its duty of fair
representation, opening the door to a multimillion-dollar recovery against ALPA. This
is false! The judge made NO such finding.
The judge ruled on two different aspects of the case. Concerning the MDA pilots’ claims
about their terms and conditions of employment, she dismissed those claims without
finding that they were true allegations. In her ruling, she did what the law requires her
to do at this state of the case: she assumed for the purposes of ALPA’s motion to
dismiss that the allegations are true and then decided whether such allegations should
stay in court. She said NO. Even if they were true (which she did not decide), they must
be (and were) dismissed.
The second aspect of the case was the request to file a complaint concerning the
seniority list submitted to Nicolau. The judge said that at this stage of the proceedings,
before discovery, when doubts have to be resolved in favor of the plaintiffs, she would
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permit the complaint to be filed and discovery on this issue to go forward. And that is
all she did. She made NO factual findings regarding ALPA’s conduct except that the
plaintiffs would have a chance to make a case.
These USAPA supporters are ignoring the fundamental difference between filing a
lawsuit and winning a lawsuit (like the difference between organizing a union and
running one). They have been allowed to file a lawsuit—and that’s all. They will have
an extremely steep hill to climb to prove anything unlawful about the conduct of ALPA
or the US Airways MEC Merger Committee.
As we have pointed out, the MDA plaintiffs’ claims about an allegedly “erroneous”
seniority list are just not supported by the facts. ALPA lawyers are confident that after
some discovery and the submission of evidence to the judge, this case will be dismissed
on summary judgment. Those who are talking about a substantial monetary recovery
against ALPA are deluding themselves and not telling the truth to their fellow pilots.
Their statements are more examples of a pattern of communications about this case and
other matters that is either totally dishonest, totally ignorant—or both.
You deserve the truth and should demand it from those who profess to be concerned
about your career and your future.