USAPA sues some America West Pilots

[PCL_128]

So you hope...

With $80 million in the MCF, I don't think "hope" is necessary.

 

[PlaneDrvr]

ALPA will be just fine.



Illegal. This is called disparity of treatment. If the company fires one pilot for refusing to pay dues, then they have to fire all pilots who are refusing to pay dues. If they want to fire one, they have to fire all 1800, simultaneously. Ain't gonna happen.

I agree, it is illegal to do it that way.

However, if they send out letters to everyone (all 1800), most will just pay up, especially when faced with termination, as you're not talking about a lot of $$. The 'hardliners/nutcases' who want to 'make at stand' probably a small percentage, will not pay up and as I said, make a stand. In this time of cutbacks/downsizing, if you have 200-400 who 'take a stand' and don't pay up; you just cut 200-400 without have to furlough. Probably cheaper to cut that way. And, don't put it beyond Parker to do something like that, as he is a 'bottom line' guy and doesn't have any loyality to either side, east or west. His loyality is with the 'shareholders/investers/Wall Streat' and the bottom line. However, the west guys might be unestimating his loyality and it might bite them.

For what its worth, now rant away.

PD

 

[CopilotDoug]

With $80 million in the MCF, I don't think "hope" is necessary.

All their problems are solved then. Don't worry about UALs membership...

 

[weasel_lips]

Illegal. This is called disparity of treatment. If the company fires one pilot for refusing to pay dues, then they have to fire all pilots who are refusing to pay dues. If they want to fire one, they have to fire all 1800, simultaneously. Ain't gonna happen.

.

[ REMOVED ]

 

[PCL_128]

I agree, it is illegal to do it that way.

However, if they send out letters to everyone (all 1800), most will just pay up, especially when faced with termination, as you're not talking about a lot of $$. The 'hardliners/nutcases' who want to 'make at stand' probably a small percentage, will not pay up and as I said, make a stand. In this time of cutbacks/downsizing, if you have 200-400 who 'take a stand' and don't pay up; you just cut 200-400 without have to furlough. Probably cheaper to cut that way. And, don't put it beyond Parker to do something like that, as he is a 'bottom line' guy and doesn't have any loyality to either side, east or west. His loyality is with the 'shareholders/investers/Wall Streat' and the bottom line. However, the west guys might be unestimating his loyality and it might bite them.

For what its worth, now rant away.

PD

I think you underestimate the unity of the West pilots. If Doogie sent out letters to all of them to pay up (something I don't think he'll do, anyway), then I doubt more than 100 or so would pay up. You'd have to be a complete fool to send money to an organization that was created for the purpose of screwing you over.

 

[PCL_128]

All their problems are solved then. Don't worry about UALs membership...

I'm not worried. UAL won't be going anywhere.

 

[Bdfg1]

You'd have to be a complete fool to send money to an organization that was created for the purpose of screwing you over.

Glad you finally see the reason alpo was kicked off the property at USAir. Maybe there is some hope for you after all.

See ya!

 

[737 Pylt]

Glad you finally see the reason alpo was kicked off the property at USAir. Maybe there is some hope for you after all.

See ya!

I was dead set on keeping ALPA on the property. That is until you began to chime in. Thanks for changing my mind and voting ALPA out. You deserve a medal.

​

Never said I take it for granted. As you pointed out I'm "training PSA pilots since I'm a J4J Capt." Looks like I'm taking advantage of it.

​

Your 6.4 b b b b billion los pal,

737

 

[PCL_128]

Your 6.4 b b b b billion los pal,

737

Don't worry, his precious "union" will protect his USCABASS. :laugh:

 

[Bdfg1]

Don't worry, his precious "union" will protect his USCABASS. :laugh:

Again you are great at assumptions considering I don't have a union.

Just for you general/737/degree mill bill....

6.7 ba ba BILLION!

Although I'll have to give degree mill bill credit...even though his mail order degree is meaningless...at least he has SOMETHING.


See ya!

 

[PCL_128]

I don't have a union.

Yeah, I guess you're right, since USCABA isn't a real union at all.

 

[Bdfg1]

Yeah, I guess you're right, since USCABA isn't a real union at all.

Considering LCC recognizes that organization as the offcial CBA for the pilot group, I would say you are once again incorrect. Suprised?

See ya!

 

[Carl S.]

Hello my fellow AWA pilots and scum from the East, I'm back from my one week ban for calling the East the dreaded S*** word! I was told I have to learn what a SC*B is. Anyone want to help me understand why the East ,at least in the moderator's view, is not a SCA* organization?
The West contract says we only pay ALPA as our CBA, thanks to Howard Attarian and the AWAPA threat in 2004. So no ALPA, no money, let's litigate if you disagree! Would USCABA agree to a legal result, or only one that suits them?

The East wanted a war, well you got one, now people on both sides will pay and suffer because the East would not follow the legal process of arbitration.

 

[PCL_128]

I'm back from my one week ban for calling the East the dreaded S*** word! I was told I have to learn what a SC*B is. Anyone want to help me understand why the East ,at least in the moderator's view, is not a SCA* organization?

I guess I'll be getting banned too, then, because I refuse to stop calling them the SCABs that they are!

The East wanted a war, well you got one

I'm sure this ridiculous lawsuit will only serve to increase the resolve and militancy of the West. Smart move, SCABford! Good luck to the West pilots. You didn't deserve to get stuck with this group of SCABs.

 

[Bdfg1]

Hello my fellow AWA pilots and scum from the East, I'm back from my one week ban for calling the East the dreaded S*** word! I was told I have to learn what a SC*B is. Anyone want to help me understand why the East ,at least in the moderator's view, is not a SCA* organization?
The West contract says we only pay ALPA as our CBA, thanks to Howard Attarian and the AWAPA threat in 2004. So no ALPA, no money, let's litigate if you disagree! Would USCABA agree to a legal result, or only one that suits them?

The East wanted a war, well you got one, now people on both sides will pay and suffer because the East would not follow the legal process of arbitration.

Ask PFT-128 if you can borrow his uneducated pft pillow to cry on.

See ya!