Usapa Dfr

[get2flyin]

Im not sure I would listen to the FI.COM legal team on here. You have to remember they are (for the most part) junior AWA FO's making these posts.

The AWA FO's (on here at least) want the East pilots to take the furlough for their lost flying out of LAS/PHX.

As opposed to USAPA, which is pretty much comprised of junior USAir FO's...

Yawn.

 

[HAL]

Im not sure I would listen to the FI.COM legal team on here. You have to remember they are (for the most part) junior AWA FO's making these posts.

The AWA FO's (on here at least) want the East pilots to take the furlough for their lost flying out of LAS/PHX.

Just a former junior AWA FO (who would be on the cusp of furlough soon) saying; get a grip. East pilots hired after the last of the AWA guys should be the ones on furlough! If you honestly believe otherwise, you're just not playing with a full deck. If you are just trying to beat down the AWA guys because they didn't bow down to the 'all powerful easties', Karma is a beyotch.

HAL

 

[waveflyer]

Noone was confused about the new hire's seniority. Not management, nor eastie or westie. Usapa lost a golden opportunity to gain credibility, while at the same time- possibly mitigate furloughs and yet== has done nothing. it's ridiculous. They do not represent the west in any way. It's a hostage situation.

Why do i care? B/c the legacies== all of them. Need to cut the excuses and get pay up to SWA and cargo and int'l. AAA unforgivably chose not to raise the bar when they had the chance. The whole industry suffers some from that move- while they fly around at ridiculously low pay- cutting the legs out from all of us.

 

[becket]

Just a reminder of USAPA's promises to their constituents regarding the Class Action Lawsuits pending against them.

How wrong can a group of adults be?

This Wrong:

"Our law firm has completed a preliminary review of the Verified Complaint and determined that it has no legal merit whatsoever. Moreover, it is the law firm’s opinion that the Verified Complaint betrays substantial ignorance of the Railway Labor Act, as reflected by the absence of appropriate statutory citation, the use of terminology not recognized under the RLA, and the use of terms inappropriately borrowed from non-RLA labor law. . .the Plaintiffs will find it impossible to demonstrate that USAPA acted outside the wide range of reasonableness to which unions are entitled given the fact that the USAPA Constitution’s policy objectives are identical to those adopted by most major airline labor unions – including the AFA, IAM, and TWU – and that this policy objective has been recognized by the federal courts as being in the interest of the labor movement as a whole."

Keep payin' those dues boys.

 

[Turtle21]

I am an apprentice member, and furloughed. But I never participate in DCO here or with ALPO elsewhere.

I would give my left nut (it is substantially larger than my right) to have this civil war resolved and get a good contract from the true Homos running US Airways.

Tweaker said Homos. LOL! I gotta hear the Barney avatar story.

 

[Turtle21]

The USAPA ministry of information will never allow this to be seen by their members. Reality for USAPA is like the sun to a vampire.

Every single legal document is on USAPA, including the latest.

Credibility.. Ocity 0 USAPA 1 :blush:

 

[Turtle21]

In USAPA's defense they had the ruling up on there website before AOL or AWAPPA. Fair and Balanced.

Oh my! For a brief moment objectivity has reared its gracious head.


Please.. could we just get back to bitter and irrational insults so we can feel comfortable viewing each other as enemies to be vanquished? In true ALPO tradition, show no mercy and take no prisoners!

On second thought.. this objectivity thing might just be useful..

 

[Turtle21]

Just a former junior AWA FO (who would be on the cusp of furlough soon) saying; get a grip. East pilots hired after the last of the AWA guys should be the ones on furlough! If you honestly believe otherwise, you're just not playing with a full deck. If you are just trying to beat down the AWA guys because they didn't bow down to the 'all powerful easties', Karma is a beyotch.

HAL

That would be DOH based. No one disagrees and if I read correctly, USAPA has filed a grievance on behalf of the AWA pilots being furloughed in this situation you describe.

 

[HAL]

That would be DOH based.

No, that would be based on the Nic award seniority. It's just that almost none of the furloughed east pilots on the bottom portion of the Nic award came back to work, so it pretty much goes from AWA to east new-hires.

HAL

 

[m80drvr]

That would be DOH based. No one disagrees and if I read correctly, USAPA has filed a grievance on behalf of the AWA pilots being furloughed in this situation you describe.

The grievance was actually stopped/denied by USAPA. It was only AFTER they were served with the DFR lawsuit that they restarted it.

In fact it was USAPA standing with the company saying that the furloughs were okay by them. Separate ops and all. Guess DOH only applies it it helps Bradford et el. Just ask the Empire guys.

Nice try at revisionist history though. I would expect nothing less from UCRAPA .