USAirways East losing respect.

[Groucho]

Actually what is really happening is an ALPA decertification drive. Vote in the teamsters and even if the arbitrators award stands the lists will not be merged.

 

[vetrider]

I do find it interesting that all through this process we have gotten paternalistic lectures from the east such as "we've been through this before, don't worry, this list will be what it is and we'll all get on with things...........etc., etc."

Well ok, the list is now out. Its not doh, so lets burn down the house.

There is a disconnect somewhere. I suppose when we westies were getting all the paternalistic lectures the east were just smugly assuming it was going to go their way, and to be honest, I did too. If west guys seem to be celebrating as so many easties are insinuating, perhaps it is because they didn't get doh'd under the bus after all?

And no, I don't think the east got thrown under the bus like they think they have. I think Brucia had a point about the 300 or so more senior recalls, but other than that I think it will work itself out through many different mechanisms that I don't feel like typing out right now.

 

[Filkster]

Over at USAviation.com on the usairways board they're talking about calling out sick and bankrupting the airline. One quote is for the east to burn the place down and give west the ashes.

"I didn't get things my way so I'm going home. And, I'm gonna take everyone's bats and balls too so none of you can play." "Then I'm gonna call Dad and tell him that if he lets me play the game exactly how I want, then I'll come back. But, I'm Team Captain, I bat every other turn and no matter how far I hit its a home run." "Got it? Good!"

USAir East you're a pathetic group of elitists. Whatever happens, you guys are the biggest pieces of dead weight on any of the airplanes.

Spoken like a true Mesa Pilot, enjoy your windfall.

 

[JD2003]

Actually what is really happening is an ALPA decertification drive. Vote in the teamsters and even if the arbitrators award stands the lists will not be merged.

Something Parker/Glass no doubt would enjoy.

A mainline whipsaw.

Enjoy.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Actually what is really happening is an ALPA decertification drive. Vote in the teamsters and even if the arbitrators award stands the lists will not be merged.

Decert on your side of the lawn hell go one better QUIT!!!!!:angryfire

WD.

 

[acarpe3448]

I am being told that the east pilot reps are putting out hot lines to ALPA National and John Prader to throw out this list. Well to that I say GET REAL!!!! You people are really something, you never once gave an inch never once showed any sense of fairness. When the 757 issues came up you offered that which was never in your control (pay protection) which is up to the company not the pilot group. We got a lousey 7 capt seats to be given AFTER the integration. The east pilots get seats that day while we wait for two years. We still have yet to get those seats. Result?? AWA pilot group screwed!

When the E190's came up we shook hands on a deal broke bread together only to be told later that no deal was ever done unless it was by resolution. Result?? AWA pilot group screwed again!

Then you cried like babies to Parker about our pass privledges and they should be based on seniority. So what happens? Our contract is once again violated in favor of the east to give them what the cried over. Result?? AWA pilot group screwed again!

We came to you with open arms snached you from the jaws of unemployment and liquidation without so much as a thank you! We made several attempts to work out a fair solution to this integration and you refused. Your only offer was DOH or nothing. We went to mediation with fairness in our hearts and on our minds but all you could see was DOH!! You expect to rebuild your careers on the backs of the AWA pilot group and we are just supposed to like it and move on!! We went thru the entire integration case again with fair play in mind and once again you came with that DOH B.S.!!! The final straw was the arbitrator saying come back on Feb 21st with a plan OTHER than DOH. The AWA pilot group again willing to bend even further and what did you do?? Made yet another arguement for DOH.

You wanted the third part decision and that's just what you got. Suck it up and be REAL men and women about this an move on. IT'S OVER!!!! now we can either work together or you can tear the place apart with your childish behavior.

WD.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Cry Baby! Mergers Suck!

 

[Turtle21]

You didn't read Brucia very well. You might want to go back and read it again.

 

[Turtle21]

No Jr, I'm up in arms because this is what they wanted!!!
WD.

Oh. OK. So then it is bitchn about bitchn. Thanks.

OH, and you can call me grandpa. I'm OK with that.

 

[d328pilot]

At BOD that prick of a PHL rep had his nose so far up Prater's a$$ that it was discusting. I am sure he is upset that he didnt get the DOH that he wanted. Too bad..

 

[Wino]

Got no dog in this fight so I don't really care, but I read this carefully and this was the screw job of the century for Usair guys.

Sorry, but this neutral person says the cactus pilots got an unbelievable windfall. Beyond belief, and far worse than what was done to the TWA pilots.

This award was fair if there were more fences, but with that puny temporary fence every awa pilots should thank their lucky stars. They won the lottery, and should just shut up and cash the check.

If (9/11 had happened after this merger there would be no usair pilots left on the property in 24 months or so, and certainly no fenced off ghetto like the TWA guys got)

Cheers
Wino