UsAirways E190 Upgrades

[Guppiedriver]

The funny part is, I really think you believe that.
But I guess if you say anything enough times it must be true, right?

Every single east pilot gained a percentage of seniority. ..that is an indisputable fact. Whether you believe it or not isn't my problem. Read the damn award and compare your old position to your new one. I lost 6% seniority on the Nicolau. Every west pilot lost a percentage of seniority. The more senior you were, the more you lost.

 

[DCAA320]

Every single east pilot gained a percentage of seniority. ..that is an indisputable fact. Whether you believe it or not isn't my problem. Read the damn award and compare your old position to your new one. I lost 6% seniority on the Nicolau. Every west pilot lost a percentage of seniority. The more senior you were, the more you lost.

Not that the East had/has a gazillion wide bodies but you boys had/have none.

 

[zasca]

How can a DFR against usapa happen if they are no longer the CBA come SLI time??? Even if they manage to have their chosen reps at the table with a revised protocol agreement, USAPA itself will be gone.

So I'm pretty sure AOL would have to sue APA. But wait, APA can say, "hey, we let the arbitrators make the final list, our hands are clean"...

I dunno, Just thinking out loud.

 

[waveflyer]

Not that the East had/has a gazillion wide bodies but you boys had/have none.

I always thought a gazillion meant more than 31.
Bc that's what you boys had/have
21 a330's and 10 767's
Out of a combined fleet of over 300

And never mind the 20 190's that you guys get paid RJ wages to fly-

I am very convinced that the VAST MAJORITY of east pilots have NOT READ THE NIC AWARD.

 

[Scoot 11]

Hey, that's pretty cute there, slim. Can you read? Nice swing and a miss, but I'm in an Airbus, not an RJ. I made the escape from R.J. to mainline a while back, and was lucky enough to put the the Delta Connection abomination in the rear view mirror. Turns around a point????? Didn't they teach you that in UPT? Maybe you flew drones and that's how you ended up at DAL?????????

Mainline? How precious, Kitten. Your knees heal up yet, or are they still sore? Us Airways is hardly mainline. But keep telling yourself that to make up for your inadequacies!

 

[RJLoser]

Mainline? How precious, Kitten. Your knees heal up yet, or are they still sore? Us Airways is hardly mainline. But keep telling yourself that to make up for your inadequacies!

How's the view from #3 scoot?

 

[Guppiedriver]

Not that the East had/has a gazillion wide bodies but you boys had/have none.

A gazillion wide bodies? LOL! You brought ~ two dozen wide bodies to the merger and you were credited with the first 517 spots on the seniority list.

 

[St. Nic]

A gazillion wide bodies? LOL! You brought ~ two dozen wide bodies to the merger and you were credited with the first 517 spots on the seniority list.

And you were credited with a new hire going in front of a 17 year veteran!!! Just saying son

 

[Scoot 11]

How's the view from #3 scoot?

How's the view from behind your man Loser?:blush::laugh:

 

[Guppiedriver]

And you were credited with a new hire going in front of a 17 year veteran!!! Just saying son

Tough luck, junior.

 

[ALGFLYR]

how many years out of that had a 17 year pilot actually been on the property actively flying?

Honest question.

17...

 

[Guppiedriver]

17...

Where was he on your list?

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

I always thought a gazillion meant more than 31.
Bc that's what you boys had/have
21 a330's and 10 767's
Out of a combined fleet of over 300

And never mind the 20 190's that you guys get paid RJ wages to fly-

I am very convinced that the VAST MAJORITY of east pilots have NOT READ THE NIC AWARD.

Would you have been in favor of arbitration Wave, or would you have thrown out your union to avoid the outcome? It's easy to throw stones from the outside looking in.

 

[PCL_128]

How can a DFR against usapa happen if they are no longer the CBA come SLI time??? Even if they manage to have their chosen reps at the table with a revised protocol agreement, USAPA itself will be gone.

So I'm pretty sure AOL would have to sue APA. But wait, APA can say, "hey, we let the arbitrators make the final list, our hands are clean"...

I dunno, Just thinking out loud.

Even if the arbitrators make the list, APA still has a responsibility to ensure that the process is fair to all involved that they represent. If APA were to create a construct for the arbitration process that was fundamentally unfair to a specific group, then they could be held liable even if they didn't craft the actual list. Anything that is "arbitrary, discriminatory, or in bad faith" is a breach of DFR. But you're right that USAPA can't be sued if USAPA doesn't exist anymore. APA shoulders the DFR burden after a single carrier determination.

 

[Turtle21]

Not that the East had/has a gazillion wide bodies but you boys had/have none.

I always thought a gazillion meant more than 31.
Bc that's what you boys had/have
21 a330's and 10 767's
Out of a combined fleet of over 300

And never mind the 20 190's that you guys get paid RJ wages to fly-

I am very convinced that the VAST MAJORITY of east pilots have NOT READ THE NIC AWARD.

A gazillion wide bodies? LOL! You brought ~ two dozen wide bodies to the merger and you were credited with the first 517 spots on the seniority list.

DCA was conceding the fact that we do not have a gazillion wide bodies, while stating the obvious, that we do have wide bodies. He anticipated your objection that though we do have wide bodies, we do not have a gazillion.

Guppiediver, I have been told that the West has more pilots without a four-year degree than any other carrier. Do you have any data on that?