US Airways to hire

[MCDU]

Word is 25/ month indef. starting in Jan/12. Rumor is 190's coming back. No hiring forecast for USAIR West division.

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[ackattacker]

I heard the same RE the hiring from a reputable source. First I've heard about the 190's though.

 

[get2flyin]

(eye roll)

 

[Lampshade]

Excited about more E190's? Is the union still looking for charitable contributions for 190 pilots? Remember this:

E190 Benevolence
Aware of the suffering of our 190 pilots, in particular our 190 First Officers, we have created this section as a place to post offers of benevolence from fellow pilots and others that may help our fellow pilots in their time of need.

So has USAPA done anything about the b-scale that continues except asking for handouts from fellow pilots? 100 seat Major airline pilot second year, $44hr. with 72hr guarantee about $1200 after taxes every 2 weeks...sad really.

 

[kf4amu]

Excited about more E190's? Is the union still looking for charitable contributions for 190 pilots? Remember this:



So has USAPA done anything about the b-scale that continues except asking for handouts from fellow pilots? 100 seat Major airline pilot second year, $44hr. with 72hr guarantee about $1200 after taxes every 2 weeks...sad really.

Better than Republic's top scale...

 

[JumpJetter]

I ask this cause i just don't know. Are 190s mainline US Air? Considering the low pay, what are some dates of hire for the 190 FO?

Just wondering

jj

 

[LearLove]

I ask this cause i just don't know. Are 190s mainline US Air? Considering the low pay, what are some dates of hire for the 190 FO?

Just wondering

jj

190's are mainline, the low pay is due to the rates being negoiated while in BK. The DOH of FO's on the 190 ranges from new hires (hired off the street this past summer to 1989(ish) DOH for the top few who chose to stay on it for bidding a sked - myself included in the latter. I could have bid group2 about a year ago for about $25/hour more pay but I have other projects in the works and want control of my sked.

 

[Gators]

Out of curiosity I looked into their pay scales. Wow. Are there really 10 year FOs making $55/hr?? Please tell me they are getting compensated more than this!

 

[captfred]

Word is 25/ month indef. starting in Jan/12. Rumor is 190's coming back. No hiring forecast for USAIR West division.

M

Cheaper to expand the B scale division of the airline.

 

[becket]

Just more furlough fodder for the west.

 

[Bringupthebird]

What job would someone leave so that they can come to US and earn the lowest payrates in the industry forever and be forced to fly with pilots who are constantly reminding them why they must hold the line and protect their poverty?

The east pilots will prevail in establishing US as a stepping-stone hybrid regional-major with no one investing enough of their career to bother trying to improve it. In the process they will make improvements at other airlines much more difficult.

All because they couldn't accept an arbitration award that would have added less than 3 years to their career advancement over the Dead-End DOH scheme.

Apply with open eyes.

 

[Lampshade]

190's are mainline, the low pay is due to the rates being negoiated while in BK.

The rates were negotiated in the merger TA as a teaser rate to bring the flying in-house that was 5 years ago. It was to be renegotiated with new contract that never happened (aka USAPA), now we are stuck with a b-scale and basically the union running a food can drive for the 190 fo's.

 

[weasel_lips]

A newhire coming on next year is not going to have to worry about the E190 FO pay for long. With the massive retirements coming up they will be holding captain on anything in 5 years or less. E190 Captain in less then 2 years.

It is going to be one of the fastest upgrades in history at a major airline.

 

[doh]

The title should be "US Airways to kidnap". How else will they get anyone through the door?:laugh:

 

[piratebooty]

A newhire coming on next year is not going to have to worry about the E190 FO pay for long. With the massive retirements coming up they will be holding captain on anything in 5 years or less. E190 Captain in less then 2 years.

It is going to be one of the fastest upgrades in history at a major airline.

That is what they were telling new hires at REAL Piedmont in 1988. This according to an ex-Piedmont, now US AIR pilot I flew with while he was furloughed in 2006.

 

[hoover84]

A newhire coming on next year is not going to have to worry about the E190 FO pay for long. With the massive retirements coming up they will be holding captain on anything in 5 years or less. E190 Captain in less then 2 years.

It is going to be one of the fastest upgrades in history at a major airline.

Dreaming.......Wait until the AA merger is over before you make any prediction. I hope you are correct but the past twenty years say no.....

 

[Lampshade]

How does a merger with with 10% right sizing come into your calculations? Also a possible integration with AA is going to put hundreds of there currently furloughed guys in captains seats if they go with USAPA's request right..oh snap.

 

[reepicheep]

"Every F/O on the property here will be a Captain within 5 years"

Ed Colodny, 1989

 

[get2flyin]

"Every F/O on the property here will be a Captain within 5 years"

Ed Colodny, 1989

I'll see your '89 and raise you to '04

"Every one of you will upgrade in a MAXIMUM of 5 years due to growth based on aircraft orders alone"

AWA Newhire class, 2004

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

You pays your money, you takes your chances. . . .

That being said, the attrition coming in 400 days will mean we lose 1 pilot out East every 30 or so hours. You might start on the 190 but you'll be moving pretty quickly.

Dude, 1989 was 22 years ago, join us here in the future.

 

[weasel_lips]

Dreaming.......Wait until the AA merger is over before you make any prediction. I hope you are correct but the past twenty years say no.....

Mandatory retirements say yes.

All that 80's crap you guys are hooked on was based on expansion and bad business plans. That is not the case this time.

USAIR is at it's min fleet size, no shrinkage. There are going to be 100's of retirements a year till this place is basically all new people.

5 year upgrades will happen.

 

[reepicheep]

Listen, I hope it works out for everyone. This airline has ruined or stalled a lot of careers over the years. Maybe it really is a new era at Airways. Buyer beware.

 

[Capt.Underpants]

A newhire coming on next year is not going to have to worry about the E190 FO pay for long. With the massive retirements coming up they will be holding captain on anything in 5 years or less. E190 Captain in less then 2 years.

It is going to be one of the fastest upgrades in history at a major airline.

And for BK wages! Yeah! Might as well go to Allegiant. USAir sucks.

 

[Hpilot]

I'll see your '89 and raise you to '04

"Every one of you will upgrade in a MAXIMUM of 5 years due to growth based on aircraft orders alone"

AWA Newhire class, 2004

Yep, nobody new the east pilots were going to come in and steal everyones seniority. They deserve the industry's lowest pay till' the last day

 

[Hpilot]

And for BK wages! Yeah! Might as well go to Allegiant. USAir sucks.

We don't suck that bad, but yes, we do suck. At least the east anyway.

 

[Hpilot]

Mandatory retirements say yes.

All that 80's crap you guys are hooked on was based on expansion and bad business plans. That is not the case this time.

USAIR is at it's min fleet size, no shrinkage. There are going to be 100's of retirements a year till this place is basically all new people.

5 year upgrades will happen.

That's right everybody we stole it from the west
We may be stagnant, but you guys have the worst contract everrrrrrr. Enjoy

 

[cbrown1]

Will the app window reset? I applied back in April and didn't get a call, I would like to try again.
The last round, what was the average flt time for the guys hired?

Can I pm someone for some information? Thanks

 

[Snaab]

Ok, have to ask this question: When are the newhire payrates for the 190 going to go up from the current slave wages? I've given thought applying to Airways, but to even make what I'm making at my regional job would take EONS at the current rates- EONS. (And I fly a turboprop.) The 190 payrates aren't even reasonable.

 

[Hpilot]

Ok, have to ask this question: When are the newhire payrates for the 190 going to go up from the current slave wages? I've given thought applying to Airways, but to even make what I'm making at my regional job would take EONS at the current rates- EONS. (And I fly a turboprop.) The 190 payrates aren't even reasonable.

Sorry to say it could be a long time. Those pay rates were there to get the 190s onto mainline's ticket and keep them away from the regionals. If the east hadn't ignored arbitration and voted in UCRAPA then we'd have had a new contract years ago and those rates wouldn't even exist.

 

[weasel_lips]

Ok, have to ask this question: When are the newhire payrates for the 190 going to go up from the current slave wages? I've given thought applying to Airways, but to even make what I'm making at my regional job would take EONS at the current rates- EONS. (And I fly a turboprop.) The 190 payrates aren't even reasonable.

Most likely you will not even be on the E190 more then a year. First year pay is actually higher on the E190 anyway. Otherwise, it is a flat $3,000 a month salary on the other types.

The payrates are going to be around a while. It will be seperate operations for at least 5 more years, but you will be logging A320 PIC by then anyway. At that point you can then go do contract flying in China.