UPS MGMT Pilot -- Ready, Aim, Fire!

[Big Beer Belly]

Big Beer Belly,

Nice post! I wish more people on this forum could give informative info without just spewing flame.

Now, now Capt Overs ... just scroll up a bit and you'll see I can be a provocative jerk at times myself ...

I prefer to imagine many of these "conversations" taking place in a smoky pub, with a half dozen bitching pilots spewing and slurring forth their pearls of wisdom, interjected with ample inflammatory taunts (all fair game over beer!) ... So, if read in that light, just about anything is fair game and I laugh at most of them.

Every once in a while, just to remind myself I can still do it, I try to post something fairly coherent without flaming anyone.uke:

BBB

 

[Spooky 1]

Now, now Capt Overs ... just scroll up a bit and you'll see I can be a provocative jerk at times myself ...

I prefer to imagine many of these "conversations" taking place in a smoky pub, with a half dozen bitching pilots spewing and slurring forth their pearls of wisdom, interjected with ample inflammatory taunts (all fair game over beer!) ... So, if read in that light, just about anything is fair game and I laugh at most of them.

Every once in a while, just to remind myself I can still do it, I try to post something fairly coherent without flaming anyone.uke:

BBB

I was worried about since I had not seen any of your posts for awhile. Good to see your back!

 

[kc10/c130]

Good luck and hopefully after talking to your family and cohorts you will make the best decision for your family. Either way, I'm junior to you and live in SDF as well, so extra room on the 'Bus to MEM if you go Big Brown.

Good luck and be careful what you wish for.

 

[RS6]

Family considerations are the main motivation for me to even consider the move..

Man, that could be anything...from a dying relative that you need to be close to or the wifey is simply biching 'cause she wants to be close to mama...

Need more intel there....

Here's my take:

Can you take a big pay cut? If so I seem to recall a FDX pilot tell me you can drop to 40 hrs or something like that. Now you prly make just north of 6 figures so we're talking a substantial cut in pay here....BUT...you do what you have to do.

So, if you can drop to that level AND afford to do it and since you're on the -11, that's only a couple of sequences a month, right? You would prly only work 6 or 7 days a month, including the commute.

Seems to me that if you can take the pay cut, this would EASILY allow you to move to Brown Town for the fam and prly only have to commute once or twice a month.

Just a thought.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

I was worried about since I had not seen any of your posts for awhile. Good to see your back!

Hey Spooky ... just took a little sabbatical ... but the planets are once again aligned and I've been sharing my brilliant insights again. Nice to hear from you too!

I go away for a while and your alma mater takes a big doo-doo dive into bankruptcy ... sad what has become of DAL ... a great airline for many years. Hard to believe it's the same place where the employees bought a 767 for the company not long ago. A lot of friends have taken the early retirements ... can't blame 'em.

Regards,

BBB

 

[capt. megadeth]

Some people can never be happy in aviation. Some pilots could make $1 million a month and only have to work one day a week and they would bitch because that day is Sunday.

Ha ha....that is so true.

 

[Echopapa]

Since you're and MEM MD-11 F/O, obviously senior to me, I say go for it!:laugh:

I couldn't agree more....In fact, every pilot who is senior to me should strongly consider employment at other airlines. Also, may I offer you my dessert? How about a nice cigarette? Have you given any consideration into buying a motocycle?

 

[USNFDX]

Yeah because the training is done during the day, thus easier on your body.

ChipChip Chip Chip Chip :smash:

 

[Big Beer Belly]

ChipChip Chip Chip Chip :smash:

I noticed that too USNFDX ... he's hauling around a mighty big one.

But hey, unlike SWA our sims don't include 8 legs, a run to Taco Bell and 6 pre-flights!

BBB

 

[canyonblue]

I clicked on Majors, but somehow ended up in the Cargo Forum. uke:

 

[flybrowntails]

i thought the only "majors" were the cargo carriers.

 

[1800 RVR]

I clicked on Majors, but somehow ended up in the Cargo Forum

You're too funny.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No, really, stop! I'm bustin' a gut over here!

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

My comments were off base and mean spirited. Therefore I have removed them...

Read page 4, Number 53...

Nuff said

BBDC8

 

[fox3]

I clicked on Majors, but somehow ended up in the Cargo Forum. uke:

That's funny, coming from a REGIONAL pilot.

 

[klhoard]

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If the definition of a major airline is $1 billion dollars of revenue per year; but they lose $3 billion per year, are they still a major??
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[AlbieF15]

C'mon BBDC8--this guy was just trying to gain an insight into the company culture at UPS and figured this was a good place to get some other opinions. I'm sure he's a big boy and will make his own decision, but he may or may not know many UPS line guys to ASK about their version of the job. I'm sure the managment recruiters painted a GREAT picture for him, but he is trying to temper that with another viewpoint.

It looks to me like you are just going ahead and hating this guy early to beat the rush! That may end up being the best indicator to this pilot of what kind of environment he can expect to find if he does move into a Brown Mgt position.

 

[canyonblue]

That's funny, coming from a REGIONAL pilot.

That's funny, coming from a CARGO pilot.:bawling:

 

[USNFDX]

That's funny, coming from a CARGO pilot.:bawling:

Everybody is a cargo pilot. Some cargo is just self loading..........

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Canyon Blue--Get off of it. Could you honestly say that you would pass on FDX or Brown for SWA if you were starting out right now? This paradigm of yours that cargo airlines are somehow not majors is ridiculous.

I've learned a few things in life. One is that when everyone says the same things about something, it's probably true. Being a mgt pilot at UPS would certainly be better than being furloughed, but I bet those guys wish they could be on the line. After the "industry leading contract" gets finalized they'll wish even more.

 

[NoKoolAid]

BBDC8,

Chill the f*** out. If you review the original post, I was simply asking for inputs on the job. Professional inputs, not personal vendettas.

Facts:
I have not been offered the job. Only completed the first phase.

I have done my homework -- extensive to say the least. However, during the research, I never came across a tool like you.

Everyone has been professional and helpful regardless of whether line or mgmt, unlike yourself. Incapable of making a decision? Well, I've DECIDED that you name the place and time and I'll be there to dole out the appropriate response. But it's obvious you will continue to hide behind your anonymity and flame people just trying to gain further insight into a freakin' job.

Call the IPA and get the official response on non-union mgmt pilots flying during a job action. If you were educated on the matter, you would know that they cannot be classified as scabs.

One more thing BBDC8,
I've also DECIDED you are a waste of my time and everyone else here.
How's my decision making now?

I'm here waiting.