UPS MGMT Pilot -- Ready, Aim, Fire!

[flybrowntails]

i thought the only "majors" were the cargo carriers.

 

[1800 RVR]

I clicked on Majors, but somehow ended up in the Cargo Forum

You're too funny.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No, really, stop! I'm bustin' a gut over here!

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

My comments were off base and mean spirited. Therefore I have removed them...

Read page 4, Number 53...

Nuff said

BBDC8

 

[fox3]

I clicked on Majors, but somehow ended up in the Cargo Forum. uke:

That's funny, coming from a REGIONAL pilot.

 

[klhoard]

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If the definition of a major airline is $1 billion dollars of revenue per year; but they lose $3 billion per year, are they still a major??
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[AlbieF15]

C'mon BBDC8--this guy was just trying to gain an insight into the company culture at UPS and figured this was a good place to get some other opinions. I'm sure he's a big boy and will make his own decision, but he may or may not know many UPS line guys to ASK about their version of the job. I'm sure the managment recruiters painted a GREAT picture for him, but he is trying to temper that with another viewpoint.

It looks to me like you are just going ahead and hating this guy early to beat the rush! That may end up being the best indicator to this pilot of what kind of environment he can expect to find if he does move into a Brown Mgt position.

 

[canyonblue]

That's funny, coming from a REGIONAL pilot.

That's funny, coming from a CARGO pilot.:bawling:

 

[USNFDX]

That's funny, coming from a CARGO pilot.:bawling:

Everybody is a cargo pilot. Some cargo is just self loading..........

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Canyon Blue--Get off of it. Could you honestly say that you would pass on FDX or Brown for SWA if you were starting out right now? This paradigm of yours that cargo airlines are somehow not majors is ridiculous.

I've learned a few things in life. One is that when everyone says the same things about something, it's probably true. Being a mgt pilot at UPS would certainly be better than being furloughed, but I bet those guys wish they could be on the line. After the "industry leading contract" gets finalized they'll wish even more.

 

[NoKoolAid]

BBDC8,

Chill the f*** out. If you review the original post, I was simply asking for inputs on the job. Professional inputs, not personal vendettas.

Facts:
I have not been offered the job. Only completed the first phase.

I have done my homework -- extensive to say the least. However, during the research, I never came across a tool like you.

Everyone has been professional and helpful regardless of whether line or mgmt, unlike yourself. Incapable of making a decision? Well, I've DECIDED that you name the place and time and I'll be there to dole out the appropriate response. But it's obvious you will continue to hide behind your anonymity and flame people just trying to gain further insight into a freakin' job.

Call the IPA and get the official response on non-union mgmt pilots flying during a job action. If you were educated on the matter, you would know that they cannot be classified as scabs.

One more thing BBDC8,
I've also DECIDED you are a waste of my time and everyone else here.
How's my decision making now?

I'm here waiting.

 

[NoKoolAid]

AlbieF15,

I appreciate your responses and inputs. Your approach is exactly what I was hoping to gain from posting on this site. Thanks for your professionalism and I apologize for going on a "rant" in the previous post. He deserved it.

NoKoolAid

 

[capt. megadeth]

Canyon Blue--Get off of it. Could you honestly say that you would pass on FDX or Brown for SWA if you were starting out right now? This paradigm of yours that cargo airlines are somehow not majors is ridiculous.

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I don't care what he calls us.....you can call us cow do do.....the fact is Big Brown has about the best job security that is possible in this industry.

 

[GuppyWN]

Canyon Blue--Get off of it. Could you honestly say that you would pass on FDX or Brown for SWA if you were starting out right now?

I would. I don't know what you guys make but flying in the day for Herb aint all bad. Having a couple thousand guys under you with more by the month aint all bad. I'm glad you like were you work - and we dang sure like it over here. Besides, Brown polyester makes me look fat

Hey NoKoolAid, I think you're nuts for even considering it. Now isn't exactly the best time to be "starting over" in this business. Nothing quite as uncomfortable as being number last on anybodys list. Especially number last management pilot.

Good luck with your decision,
Gup

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

tick...tick...tick
American/United have reorganized their cost structures
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The new US Air/America West merger will create the first true national LCC
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Air Tran and JetBlue continue to grow
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SWA fuel hedges avg price per barrel increasing.
Meanwhile China's economy continues double digit growth and India is soon to follow and UPS/FDX profits double. How does 2 billion per quarter sound? It will happen w/i 5 years.
BTW Herb retired a while back so you don't work for him anymore. Ever heard of Gary Kelly? Quite honestly I think you're nuts for not trying to get on here.

 

[canyonblue]

Canyon Blue--Get off of it. Could you honestly say that you would pass on FDX or Brown for SWA if you were starting out right now? This paradigm of yours that cargo airlines are somehow not majors is ridiculous.

If you never applied would that be considered passing? I only wanted to work at 2 Airlines, one was in my hometown the other was Southwest. Southwest called first. As far as Cargo Airlines I would not call them Majors, but rather Global. You should be glad you are currently in a class by yourself as it would seem to be a extremely stable career choice right now. But that could all change in 20 years, same as Southwest. You are correct though that if I had nothing to offer then why click on an apparent UPS link. Well, the same could be said for some of your fellow compatriots like Big Beer Belly, USNFDX, capt. megadeth, and klhoard appearing on threads such as SWA TV show, SWA Going to Denver, etc., not to mention various jetBlue threads. I would gladly never post on another Cargo related thread as long as the above refrain from posting on any Passenger Airline related thread. Let's see how long this lasts.