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Hey EX737, I am trying to decide which future job sucks the least. Whats your input on why UAL sucks? Anyone have any input on the chances of the newhires being furloughed once the lists are merged? To those who post, thanks for the good information.
 
Hey EX737, I am trying to decide which future job sucks the least. Whats your input on why UAL sucks? Anyone have any input on the chances of the newhires being furloughed once the lists are merged? To those who post, thanks for the good information.

Total crap shoot...lots of retirements coming in the future but this is aviation so shrinking and consolidation could happen. Was a new hire in 2007 when we were told not to worry we were going to hire 300 a year looking forward. They have made sure going forward that if furloughed you will keep longevity. Roll the dice even 4 years on the street never have looked back.

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New hire pay got a 100% increase and insurance from day 1... Those were "biggies" we wanted to see. This TA might have great scope, and it might not. My concern is what are the L-UAL guys going to do if they are the ones who end up in complete control? From a talking paper on scope, a L-UAL pilot SME (subject matter expert) indicated that scope was so good mgt would want "to buy it back" in the near term. Does that mean it's good and L-UAL pilots will defend it? Or does it mean they want to sell it? That's the career question. The L-UAL pilot who sold scope out the first time (and his contemporaries) are still around.
 
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The L-UAL pilot whin sold us out on scope has been reduced to a mere line pilot with zero input. Though he may still be on the property he is not a threat.
 
The new contract, if passed, makes it pretty expensive for them to furlough. Also has a clause about forcing UAX carriers to hire furloughees at 2nd year FO pay on the largest equipment the carrier flies.

Not perfect but it's worlds better than the starting pay and furlough protection those of us hired after the flow-through evaporated had.
Maybe we aren't the best legacy, I don't know. But I think it's worlds better than working for a "regional" or whatever you want to call it any day.
 
I'm returning to flying as a furloughed UAL pilot on Dec 18th. The info I have for my class is 12-737 and 4-757 vacancies to fill. Both in IAH and EWR. I'm relative senior in the class and will most likely try for IAH 737. Schedule on 757 is rough from what I hear.

A lot does depend on TA passing right now to answer your question on pay and domicile. If it does pass the next step is integrating the seniority list.

There are plenty of rumors about numbers next year, but it looks like manpower is planning on a year in advance projection when it comes to hiring.

Good luck. I hope that helps a little. I can check back on here when I return to perhaps give more insight.
 
The new contract, if passed, makes it pretty expensive for them to furlough. Also has a clause about forcing UAX carriers to hire furloughees at 2nd year FO pay on the largest equipment the carrier flies.

Not perfect but it's worlds better than the starting pay and furlough protection those of us hired after the flow-through evaporated had.
Maybe we aren't the best legacy, I don't know. But I think it's worlds better than working for a "regional" or whatever you want to call it any day.

The expense to furloughing only kicks in if someone on the seniority at DOS gets furloughed. Any newhires after that don't have the same protections except for the UAX hiring.
 

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