Travel Management-Elkhart IN. ????

[jravi8tor]

any street captains in that indoc class?

I don't believe so. They're trying very hard to promote from within now, and the only thing I want to be in is a HOT PINK CENTER!

Use that for your signature.

 

[boeing72]

I think 1 Hawker 850 PIC. And a few Hawker SIC's.

 

[Dumbluck]

I don't know what plane they hired for, but mgt. is very aware of the growing animosity of the pilot group. Many of the pilots that have been here 2+years are unable to transition into the 800/850 due to insurance flight time requirements; add that on top of the schedule change and you end up with a very angry pilot group. There are ways to meet the insurance requirements for zero time guys, but I think they are unwilling to do it because of scheduling difficulties. My two cents.

 

[johnsonrod]

What's the composition of the fleet nowadays (any breakdown)? Are the Citation IIs get phased out? What about the older Beechjets/Diamonds? What aircraft are the newhires generally being placed into?

Also, are the previously discussed payscales (I think 60K for Capts and $45K for FOs) still correct? Do salaries really max out at 60K (ceiling)? Being home-based helps but that schedule sounds like a killer schedule for people with families...

 

[boeing72]

Sounds like any more new Hawkers will be crewed by new hires, since they are now placing then into that aircraft. Just my view.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

What's the composition of the fleet nowadays (any breakdown)? Are the Citation IIs get phased out? What about the older Beechjets/Diamonds? What aircraft are the newhires generally being placed into?

Also, are the previously discussed payscales (I think 60K for Capts and $45K for FOs) still correct? Do salaries really max out at 60K (ceiling)? Being home-based helps but that schedule sounds like a killer schedule for people with families...

Captains start at 65k, FO's at 45k. There are raises, I believe second year Capt is 70k not sure what the rate of increase is after that. FO pay raise is not very much. The schedule is tough with a family but what are you going to do?

 

[Dutch1]

How about training on days off for no pay?

 

[wmuflyguy]

Anything new happening over there? Business picking up at all?

 

[boeing72]

I think they r loosing their ass!

Treat their employees bad and poorly run.

Probably wont be b4 they are gone.

 

[Dumbluck]

i have heard more rumblings from tmc pilots. tmc will reap what they sow. you can't keep guys on the road for 14 or 15 days and expect morale to be good. for a few guys the schedule suites them, more power to them; new planes and sched. that they like, then its not a bad place to work....until you start jackin' with their days off and messin with their day off pay. I hope mgt figures that out or they will end up disenfranchising the entire pilot group. If tmc keeps this up, and keeps passing the buck to the top of the company, nobody, not even the kool-aid drinkers will have any respect for mgt. When a pilot asks for clarification or reasoning behind a decision, mgt. shouldn't point to a stack of resumes' and state 'if you don't like it, leave". btw every word of this was said face-to-face to the chief pilot. twice. and no I didn't like it, so I left. Not to rub it in, just a statement of fact. Day rate in piston twin is more than day off pay at tmc. Good luck, keep looking better jobs are out there.

 

[boeing72]

I heard they were gonna start making their pilots share a hotel room.

 

[Freight Dog]

I heard they were gonna start making their pilots share a hotel room.

Oooo baby!

 

[jravi8tor]

So who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa or Spanky? Or maybe someone likes the YANKEES!

 

[cherry20's]

I heard they were gonna start making their pilots share a hotel room.

Seriously!?!I hadn't heard of anyone doing that except some scumbag 135 freight operators a couple of years ago... Might be time to find a new job. I heard you guys can't drink for your whole 2 week rotation, that true?

 

[Dumbluck]

yup, no drinky. unless........

 

[jravi8tor]

I heard they were gonna start making their pilots share a hotel room.

I guess they're trying to keep up with the Obama administration and doing away with the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

I guess they're trying to keep up with the Obama administration and doing away with the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy.

They Should do away with that policy. I was in the Army for 8 years and boy that was tough. Bush encouraged that behavior in Gitmo, You know the Co$k meat sandwich. Or maybe that was just in Harold and Kumar, but most of that was based on true events.

 

[jravi8tor]

They Should do away with that policy. I was in the Army for 8 years and boy that was tough. Bush encouraged that behavior in Gitmo, You know the Co$k meat sandwich. Or maybe that was just in Harold and Kumar, but most of that was based on true events.

Does that Co$Kmeat sandwich c&m with a side of extra mayo from Big BOB or Krispy Kreme donuts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7JzKfJbcn4

 

[GREAT LAKES]

Why everything is true!

Seriously!?!I hadn't heard of anyone doing that except some scumbag 135 freight operators a couple of years ago... Might be time to find a new job. I heard you guys can't drink for your whole 2 week rotation, that true?

Cherry,

Oh yes 100% true.........Everything you read on the Internet is true. People would never just spout off their mouth about things they have no idea about! Come on man do you really think any large operator would make guys share rooms?

Dude it's the Internet, specifically Flight Info. People drink and post on here all the time, sometime saying things they only dreamed up.

take care dude

 

[jravi8tor]

Cherry,

Oh yes 100% true.........Everything you read on the Internet is true. People would never just spout off their mouth about things they have no idea about! Come on man do you really think any large operator would make guys share rooms?

Dude it's the Internet, specifically Flight Info. People drink and post on here all the time, sometime saying things they only dreamed up.

take care dude

Actually pilots at Travel Management aren't allowed to drink while on rotation. Just ask the few whom have been let go over this policy.