Travel Management-Elkhart IN. ????

[Skippy]

how do they have you by the balls? How?

 

[captfred]

how do they have you by the balls? How?

They most likely are under training contracts. Some of the slimeball operators now even make you sign before attending recurrent. Very close to a slave labor situation.

 

[jravi8tor]

how do they have you by the balls? How?

Travel Management relizes they're far and few other opportunites out there with regard to flying jobs. Management can keep taketh away and there is not a damn thing the pilot group can do about it, ie. no pay for recurrent training anymore, hiring street captains instead of upgrading qualified candidates within the company (f/o upgrades now have an interview of at least an hour, versus a street captain you just meet and no nothing about. ie work ethic, problem child, etc.). Not allowing Be400 captains the opportunity to transition to the HS125-800.

What else did I leave out? I've never been more dissapointed with my job than I am right now! I hope the industry recovers much sooner than it will.

 

[2.71828]

"Whoever undertakes to govern a people under the form of either republic or monarchy, without making sure of those who are opposed to this new order of things, establishes a government of very brief duration." - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Discourses. 1517.

 

[Demonspeed]

Well that proves my theory that a very effective way to squash a potentially interesting argument is by confusing everyone with an obscure quote.

 

[toa2mdt]

Does a guy named Jeff Crosier still work at this place???

Fired

 

[johnsonrod]

How many Citation IIs still left on the property?

Thought I heard a Charlie Tango Citation around the NYC area today as I was flying through. Are the CII pilots basically transitioning gradually over to the Beechjet fleet?

 

[missing man]

Sharing hotel rooms?

No drinking is Ok...but are they sharing hotel rooms for 15 days?

 

[toa2mdt]

I believe Citations. We don't share hotels and it has never been considered. We stay mainly in Hilton or Marriott properties.

 

[Skippy]

Class of 10 feb 1. And another soon thereafter- both citation and beechjet

 

[toa2mdt]

Really? Class of ten? That's pretty big, I did not realize we were that short. I know planes were sitting but thought maybe they were in for inspection.

Man, I wish our management would let us know when we were hiring. It's just info that I think our pilots would like to know. It lets us know where our company stands for the future, a little bit.

 

[767..street]

Indoc starts Feb 2nd.

 

[cherry20's]

Thats good news I guess... Make sure everyone knows what they are getting into. ie drinking, upgrades, yada yada yada

 

[767..street]

upgrades?

Thats good news I guess... Make sure everyone knows what they are getting into. ie drinking, upgrades, yada yada yada

 

[cherry20's]

So to speak... How they hired street Captains is what I meant.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

Anybody have the current gouge on the interview process? I understand there is a phone interview, panel interview, sim session, and even perhaps a written test now.....anybody have the low down? Interview questions, sim profile, or anything else you can think of would be great!

How many guys ended up being hired on the last go around?

 

[johnsonrod]

What determines whether you get Beechjet or Citation II? How many Citation IIs are still flying?

 

[atrflier]

Anybody have the current gouge on the interview process? I understand there is a phone interview, panel interview, sim session, and even perhaps a written test now.....anybody have the low down? Interview questions, sim profile, or anything else you can think of would be great!

How many guys ended up being hired on the last go around?

I think not. Last I had heard the interview process involved a one on one Interview with the chief pilot or director of training. A few technical questions, but mostly a "get to know you" interview.

The last class of guys was about 10. They are still looking for more, as a request for "referrals" emailed to employees.

The newhires are to replace a number of people who are fed up with the change to the 15 and 13 schedule. Its tough, especially with 1st year pay being 45K. They did have to hire a couple of "street captains" in the past because of our ARGUS requirements for PIC time in type... just too many new guys with low time.. but that seems to be fix now. All upgrades appear to be internal now. Upgrade pay Starts at 65k in the beechjet a little more in the hawker a little less in the SII.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

I know somebody that ended up getting hired there recently. The new process is pretty much just as I spelled it out. Phone interview, panel interview, written test, and then sim session at a local (maybe not so local) college. I understand this just started in 2010. I believe I heard 9 were hired in the January class and 4 (only 2 have a Beechjet type rating) in the February class and they start indoc on Monday. From what I understand they are done hiring until new aircraft show up or more folks quit.

 

[FL430]

More openings

More hiring.... if your up for another dissapointing company come on in the water is cold... It's a junker co. Run away, the rest of us are!!